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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Side note: a foreigner perspective on the 3 kids debate => as a French person I am always struck by how negative Americans are towards people who have 3 children. It is so often portrayed as a crazy, selfish, financially and environmentally irresponsible choice. I think in France we would think the same way about someone who chooses to have 5 or 6 children but 3?? [b]we need some 3 kid families to ensure natural reproductive rate of the population[/b] (2.1 given the number of people who don't have kids or only 1).

Not judging. I am actually stopping at 2 myself because I understand it would be too hard for me to afford 3 children while living in the US. But I never thought 3 children would feel impossible. In France with subsidized day care, free education and full day schools you mostly choose your family size based on what seems the best balance in terms of time and love. It is too hard to raise a 3 kids family here.

And to finish my thought: people end up criticizing the 3 kids choice almost as a moral failure. From an outsider's perspective it looks more like a society failure..[/quote]

We need a negative rate for the planet to sustain the species into the future. Right now we are quickly spending down the surplus.[/quote]

PP here: I agree that we need to stop the expansion, we need all developing countries to go through their demographic transition, but a country that cannot take care of its elders is in big time troubles too (think Japan, think Germany that needs a big influx of migrants and that's not necessarily an easy solution to manage..). In the US it is less visible because the immigration balance covers the problem and a lot of new migrants have larger families too. But politically, culturally, not all countries manage to absorb big influx of migrants (and I say that as someone from Arabic descent  who had zero issues assimilating to French culture and feels very French, I still think assimilating large communities of migrants is a difficult challenge to say the least). Anyway, sidetracking the conversation too much but it is simplistic to think developed countries should aim for a shrinking population and it will help the global balance..[/quote]

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