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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In 2026 US News, Fordham drops to 97.[/quote]

I think Fordham had the biggest drop on us news followed by Wake Forest and William and Mary. Wake top 30 for much of its time in the ranking, William and Mary top 40 for much of its time in the ranking, Fordham top 60 for much of its time in the ranking. Wake now standing at -26 from its all time high, William and Mary -22 from its all time high, Fordham -44 from its all time high. UC Merced +95. Idk if there’s anything wrong with these schools now more than there’s something wrong with the new ranking methodology[/quote]

It is absolutely about methodology. People need to parse the additions and subtractions to see if they agree because the schools haven't changed. For the record, I disagree and can't fathom why people blindly follow this magazine's rankings.

[b]Removed[/b] from methodology:
*Class Size: used to reward schools where majority of classes had fewer than 20 students.

*Alumni Giving Rate: biased the rankings toward institutions with older, affluent alumni networks (I am fine with eliminating this one)

*High School Class Standing: The proportion of freshmen who were in the top 10% of high school class eliminated

*Instructional Faculty with Terminal Degrees: dropped entirely

Other than alumni giving, these others all make a huge difference in a student's experience and the kind of education they get.

Added to methodology:

*Pell Grant Graduation Rates & Performance

*First-Generation Graduation Rates

*Postgraduate Earnings

I appreciate anyone wanting to incentivize colleges to help with upward mobility but how about lowering the price over all? How about more breaks for the middle class? As metrics for a ranking, those first two are really misleading. Obviously, they hugely benefit low cost state schools (see UC Merced) but they also reward schools with a HUGE endowment, which US News was supposedly trying to get away from. In any case, if you are middle class and not first gen, that percentage does not hugely alter your experience or the education you get.

And as far as Postgrad earnings, we already get that from the Wall Street Journal and Forbes rankings! We don't need another ranking that gives so much importance to salary, which results in the PhD feeders going way down in the rankings.[/quote]

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