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Anonymous wrote:Here are the updated USNWR rankings for the Jesuit colleges in the US:

National
#24 Georgetown University
#36 (tie) Boston College
#59 Santa Clara University
#88 Marquette University
#97 Fordham University
#102 Gonzaga University
#102 Loyola Marymount University
#102 Saint Louis University
#110 University of San Francisco
#117 Creighton University
#132 Loyola University Chicago
#139 Fairfield University
#151 Seattle University
#183 University of Detroit Mercy
#208 Xavier University
#222 Loyola University New Orleans
#273 Regis University

National LAC
#27 College of the Holy Cross

Regional
#6 (North) Saint Joseph's University
#7 (North) Loyola University Maryland
#8 (North) University of Scranton
#13 (North) Le Moyne College
#32 (North) Canisius University
#38 (North) Saint Peter's University
#55 (North) Regis College (MA)

#2 (Midwest) John Carroll University
#6 (Midwest) Rockhurst University

#12 (South) Spring Hill College


Look better?

The JESUIT Regis is in Denver, not Massachusetts.

Oops! Funny enough, the one in Colorado is already listed above under national universities at #273.

Anonymous wrote:The new Boston College basketball coach is Bill Murray’s son. The elder Murray should generate some media attention for the team, even if younger Murray doesn’t generate many victories.

Wasn't he the asst. coach for Uconn? Maybe he will generate victories.

I have a question for posters who insist that Jesuit colleges are "no longer Catholic." What are you basing that on? Did you (other than Georgetown) actually attend one? Because I did, and it was Catholic AF. What it wasn't was "conservative." There's a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:In 2026 US News, Fordham drops to 97.

I think Fordham had the biggest drop on us news followed by Wake Forest and William and Mary. Wake top 30 for much of its time in the ranking, William and Mary top 40 for much of its time in the ranking, Fordham top 60 for much of its time in the ranking. Wake now standing at -26 from its all time high, William and Mary -22 from its all time high, Fordham -44 from its all time high. UC Merced +95. Idk if there’s anything wrong with these schools now more than there’s something wrong with the new ranking methodology

It is absolutely about methodology. People need to parse the additions and subtractions to see if they agree because the schools haven't changed. For the record, I disagree and can't fathom why people blindly follow this magazine's rankings.

Removed from methodology:
*Class Size: used to reward schools where majority of classes had fewer than 20 students.

*Alumni Giving Rate: biased the rankings toward institutions with older, affluent alumni networks (I am fine with eliminating this one)

*High School Class Standing: The proportion of freshmen who were in the top 10% of high school class eliminated

*Instructional Faculty with Terminal Degrees: dropped entirely

Other than alumni giving, these others all make a huge difference in a student's experience and the kind of education they get.

Added to methodology:

*Pell Grant Graduation Rates & Performance

*First-Generation Graduation Rates

*Postgraduate Earnings

I appreciate anyone wanting to incentivize colleges to help with upward mobility but how about lowering the price over all? How about more breaks for the middle class? As metrics for a ranking, those first two are really misleading. Obviously, they hugely benefit low cost state schools (see UC Merced) but they also reward schools with a HUGE endowment, which US News was supposedly trying to get away from. In any case, if you are middle class and not first gen, that percentage does not hugely alter your experience or the education you get.

And as far as Postgrad earnings, we already get that from the Wall Street Journal and Forbes rankings! We don't need another ranking that gives so much importance to salary, which results in the PhD feeders going way down in the rankings.

The new Boston College basketball coach is Bill Murray’s son. The elder Murray should generate some media attention for the team, even if younger Murray doesn’t generate many victories.

Anonymous wrote:Here are the updated USNWR rankings for the Jesuit colleges in the US:

National
#24 Georgetown University
#36 (tie) Boston College
#59 Santa Clara University
#88 Marquette University
#97 Fordham University
#102 Gonzaga University
#102 Loyola Marymount University
#102 Saint Louis University
#110 University of San Francisco
#117 Creighton University
#132 Loyola University Chicago
#139 Fairfield University
#151 Seattle University
#183 University of Detroit Mercy
#208 Xavier University
#222 Loyola University New Orleans
#273 Regis University

National LAC
#27 College of the Holy Cross

Regional
#6 (North) Saint Joseph's University
#7 (North) Loyola University Maryland
#8 (North) University of Scranton
#13 (North) Le Moyne College
#32 (North) Canisius University
#38 (North) Saint Peter's University
#55 (North) Regis College (MA)

#2 (Midwest) John Carroll University
#6 (Midwest) Rockhurst University

#12 (South) Spring Hill College


Look better?

The JESUIT Regis is in Denver, not Massachusetts.

Anonymous wrote:Fairfield while not highly ranked (yet) had a 25% acceptance rate last year. Look for it to ascend the rankings in the years to come.

But that’s manufactured. They yield protect and do the whole game. They’re not alone in doing that but admitted, not enrolled student averages of 3.9 weighted and 1320-1420 test optional with a 25% acceptance rate seems off

Anonymous wrote:In 2026 US News, Fordham drops to 97.

I think Fordham had the biggest drop on us news followed by Wake Forest and William and Mary. Wake top 30 for much of its time in the ranking, William and Mary top 40 for much of its time in the ranking, Fordham top 60 for much of its time in the ranking. Wake now standing at -26 from its all time high, William and Mary -22 from its all time high, Fordham -44 from its all time high. UC Merced +95. Idk if there’s anything wrong with these schools now more than there’s something wrong with the new ranking methodology

Fairfield while not highly ranked (yet) had a 25% acceptance rate last year. Look for it to ascend the rankings in the years to come.

Anonymous wrote:Paying $90k to a school ranked well beyond 100 probably isn’t a good ROI. Lots of Catholic kids flocking to UGa, Clemson, Alabama and Ole Miss. Cheaper, much better weather, bid time athletics and same if not better outcomes,

which school are you referring to? A lot of the Jesuit schools are under 90K and most give excellent merit.

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Anonymous wrote:Follow the money, Holy Cross, Georgetown and BC have the largest endowment per student in that order. With kids flocking in large numbers to SEC and Big10 schools lesser known Jesuit/Catholic schools will have to offer lots of merit aid to attract potential students.

There are many Catholic families who would have considered these smaller Jesuit collleges if they were still Catholic, but since so many jesuit colleges have wholehearedly rejected the Catholic faith and heritage to become just one more small secular liberal arts college in a sea of small secular liberal arts college, there is no reason to consider them.

Jesuit colleges are for everyone. They are not Catholic summer camp and have no time for dogma. They are not church, which makes sense because Catholicism has a wide diversity of thought. Everyone will take a couple of theology and philosophy classes and the curricula and atmosphere are steeped in Jesuit values of service and justice. There are plenty of ways to engage with your Catholic faith on campus. A far cry from "Just one more small secular liberal arts school."

My kid isn't religious but was drawn to Jesuit schools because of their service mindset as well as diversity of thought and push for social justice.

I would like to see people post more about Creighton.

It seems to be a solid school in an affordable city with a strong job market.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty weak only 3 schools in top 50. Georgetown, HC, and BC, Don’t see appeal of Fairfield when in state UConn is much higher ranked at half the cost.

Weird and prejudiced comment start to finish. How many Protestant/Christian schools are in the top 50? How many LDS? How many Jewish? And what in the world does Fairfield have to do with UConn other than being in Connecticut. You don't see the appeal of a fun, spirited liberally arts school because it is in the same state as a large state school?

Jesuit colleges like Fairfield will have much smaller core curriculum classes than places like UConn. Students are known personally by their professors. And with the focus on liberal arts in the core, a given student doesn't just study intro literature, philosophy and theology, but higher level classes also in those subjects along with the writing and discussion that comes with it. It's a different experience than a large state university.

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Anonymous wrote:Follow the money, Holy Cross, Georgetown and BC have the largest endowment per student in that order. With kids flocking in large numbers to SEC and Big10 schools lesser known Jesuit/Catholic schools will have to offer lots of merit aid to attract potential students.

There are many Catholic families who would have considered these smaller Jesuit collleges if they were still Catholic, but since so many jesuit colleges have wholehearedly rejected the Catholic faith and heritage to become just one more small secular liberal arts college in a sea of small secular liberal arts college, there is no reason to consider them.

Jesuit colleges are for everyone. They are not Catholic summer camp and have no time for dogma. They are not church, which makes sense because Catholicism has a wide diversity of thought. Everyone will take a couple of theology and philosophy classes and the curricula and atmosphere are steeped in Jesuit values of service and justice. There are plenty of ways to engage with your Catholic faith on campus. A far cry from "Just one more small secular liberal arts school."

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty weak only 3 schools in top 50. Georgetown, HC, and BC, Don’t see appeal of Fairfield when in state UConn is much higher ranked at half the cost.

Weird and prejudiced comment start to finish. How many Protestant/Christian schools are in the top 50? How many LDS? How many Jewish? And what in the world does Fairfield have to do with UConn other than being in Connecticut. You don't see the appeal of a fun, spirited liberally arts school because it is in the same state as a large state school?

Jesuit colleges like Fairfield will have much smaller core curriculum classes than places like UConn. Students are known personally by their professors. And with the focus on liberal arts in the core, a given student doesn't just study intro literature, philosophy and theology, but higher level classes also in those subjects along with the writing and discussion that comes with it. It's a different experience than a large state university.

The kids we know at Fairfield, Providence, Fordham, love their schools and are not kids who would equally love UGA, Auburn, Alabama, whereverU. They're not all interchangeable.

This exactly. My student had absolutely no interest in a southern school with Greek life. Those aren't here people.