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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our kid has been working from home since well before Covid.  When she and her husband decided to have kids they lined up child care first - the grandparents when the kids were babies and a preschool/daycare once they were toddlers.   It never occurred to her for a second that she could watch her kids at home herself and work at the same time.  It’s not fair to anyone involved.

Time to return to reality, ladies.  [/quote]

Ugh this is such sexist garbage. As PPs have explained the issue isn’t people trying to WAH with a toddler. It’s tacking on the commuting hours to the workday which = needing even more childcare (this is essentially a sudden pay cut — after care for 2 kids can be $700+ per month).

Also my DH works in private sector IT. He and many other *men* (and women) in his field are fully remote. My DH has enjoyed the work/life balance and being home to coach the kids sports after school, he helps cook dinner, etc.

So it’s not just “ladies” who care about being around for their kids. Sorry your daughter couldn’t find a better father for her kids if you think this way.[/quote]

You all are just missing the point completely. You have been spoiled and frankly got a little lazy. Here's an idea: stop prioritizing giant houses and big yards. If lessening your commute time is so important, move close to your jobs. Bonus: it's better for the environment. These are ideas that those of us who raised children while working FT before the pandemic did. If we got through it, so can you. Just make better decisions.[/quote]

Everyone, this woman is just angry because her adult kids finally told her they’re going no contact with her due to her general toxicity and hatefulness.

Give her space here to shout at clouds - she’s had a rough Thanksgiving.[/quote]

😂 I think it is a fundamental misunderstanding that COVID altered the childcare landscape especially for school-aged care. [/quote]

This -- if you raised kids or even before Covid you don't understand that parents with kids under age 10 don't have the same options anymore and have to deal with more instability in school schedules. Our school assumes weekday flexibility and availability in a way it never used to while also offering fewer after school programs. I'm on the PTA and we had to fight last year to get guaranteed childcare on Wednesday afternoons when our school does half days for PD -- this school year is the first year that the school can guarantee childcare for anyone who wants it (and will pay for it) so that they can just pick their kids up at the normal time as opposed to 12:30pm. And even the limited number of spots available in previous years only started in 2022 -- there was nothing for parents in 2021. So if, like me, you have a 5th grader this year, you've spent the last four years with either no school at all (Covid Closure 2020-2021), school but no aftercare including on short school days (2021-2022), school and aftercare but limited by lottery with no guarantee you'll get a spot (2022-2024), or school an guaranteed childcare until 3:30 but still limited aftercare spots (2024).

And now my kid is finally old enough that I could just have her home while I WFH without needing childcare and there's renewed demand for RTO. We will make it work with after school activities she can walk to and coordinating with other parents but if she were 7 or 8 that wouldn't be an option -- I couldn't just have her walk the 3/4 of a mile to ballet and then walk to her friend's house from ballet until my DH or I can pick her up at 5:30 like I can now.[/quote]

FCPS had half-day Mondays for decades, with zero "guaranteed free childcare".

The flexibility absolutely should be there, but arguing that it's "impossibly expensive" and the childcare landscape has changed so much since COVID and that pre-COVID people don't know what they're talking about is completely naïve and lame.

You are used to basically not paying for the child care, and now you just can't fathom doing the budgeting and scrimping -- that EVERYONE actually was doing literally the month before COVID. (it wasn't just decades or years and years before COVID). [/quote]

+1.  It’s been nice to save a sh*t ton of money on childcare and now that they may have to open their wallets and that it’s not as convenient to have to get kids to and from daycare/school care, there’s a million reasons why it’s “impossible”.

And yeah, participation in some after-school activities may not be able to happen.  This isn’t new.

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[b]And yet none of you gleeful goons can actually articulate *the point* of blanket RTO policies.  You’re just thrilled to see someone else *lose* something, as if that somehow helps you or society. [/b] [/quote]

Louder for those in back. I don't understand this mentality. Are people pushing to have kids in crowded aftercare programs (that don't exist) for hours and hours... why? Because they feel guilty about what they did with their own kids? How can you not want better for kids? ALL kids?[/quote]

I think a lot of people haven’t worked in a long time and don’t understand how the nature of work has changed for office workers. Or they aren’t office workers. They actually think there is a benefit of going into the office and that it’s part of work.

They don’t understand how many people are going into an office to use Teams. They don’t understand how everyone uses Teams to meet because of the ability to share documents and the chat feature. Also the fact many employees are in different locations.

Technology has changed the workforce tremendously. Can you imagine now attending a meeting where you all sit in a conference room, no one has a laptop and someone hands out printed documents?  People don’t understand that no longer happens at many workplaces.

Tomorrow I’ll be commuting into the office to use my computer by myself in a conference room for meetings with the UK. No one on the calls is in my city. How does it make sense for me to spend two hours commuting to do that?

If they want to enforce a true RTO like pre-2020 then they need to get rid of Teams, reinstate office phones, and not allow any sort of video conferencing. They also need to change staffing models so that staff aren’t spread out geographically.

At this point requiring full RTO is like requiring us to use phone calls and faxes instead of email. It’s archaic.

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