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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity[/quote]

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so? [/quote]
This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.[/quote]

THANK YOU.  I am beyond sick of the sanctimonious liberals on this site, lecturing others about who to vote for (or not vote for).  Stay in your lane, Ds.  We're all entitled to our vote and many of us are simply not obsessed with the abortion issue, as you are.  [/quote]

Your vote, your choice.[b] But own it. [/b]

If you vote R you are saying you are ok if the Rs ban abortion. Maybe you’re ambivalent but that is 100% your choice. 
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What part of the above post is not "owning" my choice?  Get over yourself. [b] No one is going to "ban" abortion[/b], just like no one is "banning" books, you moron.  I FULLY own my vote.  Again:  stay in your lane.[/quote]

You aren’t owning it because you refuse to admit that Republicans are actively trying to ban abortion in VA. Just admit that you think it’s acceptable if they ban abortion.
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Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is not banning it, you twit.  [/quote]
Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is banning abortion after 15 weeks, leaving women with wanted babies who have horrendous diagnoses no choice but to deliver them, endangering their own health and future fertility. And Youngkin specifically said he’d sign anything the legislature gave him, not just a 15-week ban.[/quote]

Interesting that you're deliberately leaving out the usual caveats - "exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother."  But it's totally understandable that you continue to mislead, gaslight, and flat-out lie to anyone you can get to listen to you. [/quote]

None of those "usual caveats" applies to the horrific situation described by the OP, where an anatomy scan reveals a severe congenital defect that makes the pregnancy non-viable. Forcing someone to carry that pregnancy is beyond cruel. And if the many draconian abortion bans enacted gleefully by far-right Republicans after Dobbs are any indication, those "usual caveats" may be stripped out altogether. Many red states have enacted bans with [u]no exceptions[/u] for the woman's health, rape, incest, or fetal anomalies. OP is right that Youngkin said he'd sign any abortion ban that came to his desk. Where is the lie, exactly?[/quote]

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