Anonymous wrote:Three issues are going to drive the VA elections; they are in order - 1) economy, 2) crime, and 3) education. Where the independents will focus while the D and R bases cancel each other out on abortion. As this thread is proving.

Your crime narrative is fictional.
“When it comes to the main issues on the minds of Virginians going into the election, 27% of those polled said the economy and inflation were top of mind, while 17% said abortion and 12% said K-12 education.”
https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/politics/elections/top-voter-issues-in-2023-virginia-election-the-economy-abortion-education-wason-center-poll/291-5a552053-b6b1-434a-bbdb-73a230bf14ca

Three issues are going to drive the VA elections; they are in order - 1) economy, 2) crime, and 3) education. Where the independents will focus while the D and R bases cancel each other out on abortion. As this thread is proving.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree

Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.

So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?

Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.

Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
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It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.

It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.

No, it’s not porn. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography
Pornography–"porn" or "porno" for short–is material that depicts nudity or sexual acts for the purpose of sexual stimulation. However, the presence of nudity or sexual acts in piece of media does not necessarily make that media pornographic if the purpose of that media form is something other than sexual stimulation

If you actually read the books you’d know they weren’t intended for sexual stimulation.

And what is appropriate for a high school student is different than what’s appropriate for a kindergartner. You can’t post the word beetch on DCUM. That’s not really a test of anything.

You have got to be kidding. By now, we've all seen the pictures depicting two girls having oral sex (with a dildo), the description of the vibrator, the phone/texting sex conversation, the description and recollection of a childhood sexual experience, etc. Good grief. You seem intent on gaslighting away the graphically sexual images in these books.

Talk about deliberately obtuse. No one takes you seriously at this point.

You refuse to acknowledge the actual definition of porn. Mature content doesn’t mean “porn”. They weren’t intended for sexual stimulation.

I agree with the PP who said this:
“And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.”

Just like we can all clearly see the definition of porn. And those of us who have actually read these books know that these books aren’t porn.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree

Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.

So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?

Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.

Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
DP

It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.

It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.

No, it’s not porn. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography
Pornography–"porn" or "porno" for short–is material that depicts nudity or sexual acts for the purpose of sexual stimulation. However, the presence of nudity or sexual acts in piece of media does not necessarily make that media pornographic if the purpose of that media form is something other than sexual stimulation

If you actually read the books you’d know they weren’t intended for sexual stimulation.

And what is appropriate for a high school student is different than what’s appropriate for a kindergartner. You can’t post the word beetch on DCUM. That’s not really a test of anything.

You have got to be kidding. By now, we've all seen the pictures depicting two girls having oral sex (with a dildo), the description of the vibrator, the phone/texting sex conversation, the description and recollection of a childhood sexual experience, etc. Good grief. You seem intent on gaslighting away the graphically sexual images in these books.

Talk about deliberately obtuse. No one takes you seriously at this point.

It takes a special sort of sheltered conservative fuddy-duddy not to understand that fiction can describe sex, or even depict sex, in ways that aren't sexual arousing or intended to be.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree

Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.

So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?

Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.

Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
DP

It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.

It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.

Crickets... as expected.

It was answered at least once. You have reading trouble?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

THANK YOU. I am beyond sick of the sanctimonious liberals on this site, lecturing others about who to vote for (or not vote for). Stay in your lane, Ds. We're all entitled to our vote and many of us are simply not obsessed with the abortion issue, as you are.

Your vote, your choice. But own it.

If you vote R you are saying you are ok if the Rs ban abortion. Maybe you’re ambivalent but that is 100% your choice.

What part of the above post is not "owning" my choice? Get over yourself. No one is going to "ban" abortion, just like no one is "banning" books, you moron. I FULLY own my vote. Again: stay in your lane.

You aren’t owning it because you refuse to admit that Republicans are actively trying to ban abortion in VA. Just admit that you think it’s acceptable if they ban abortion.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is not banning it, you twit.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is banning abortion after 15 weeks, leaving women with wanted babies who have horrendous diagnoses no choice but to deliver them, endangering their own health and future fertility. And Youngkin specifically said he’d sign anything the legislature gave him, not just a 15-week ban.

Interesting that you're deliberately leaving out the usual caveats - "exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother." But it's totally understandable that you continue to mislead, gaslight, and flat-out lie to anyone you can get to listen to you.

None of those "usual caveats" applies to the horrific situation described by the OP, where an anatomy scan reveals a severe congenital defect that makes the pregnancy non-viable. Forcing someone to carry that pregnancy is beyond cruel. And if the many draconian abortion bans enacted gleefully by far-right Republicans after Dobbs are any indication, those "usual caveats" may be stripped out altogether. Many red states have enacted bans with no exceptions for the woman's health, rape, incest, or fetal anomalies. OP is right that Youngkin said he'd sign any abortion ban that came to his desk. Where is the lie, exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

THANK YOU. I am beyond sick of the sanctimonious liberals on this site, lecturing others about who to vote for (or not vote for). Stay in your lane, Ds. We're all entitled to our vote and many of us are simply not obsessed with the abortion issue, as you are.

Your vote, your choice. But own it.

If you vote R you are saying you are ok if the Rs ban abortion. Maybe you’re ambivalent but that is 100% your choice.

What part of the above post is not "owning" my choice? Get over yourself. No one is going to "ban" abortion, just like no one is "banning" books, you moron. I FULLY own my vote. Again: stay in your lane.

You aren’t owning it because you refuse to admit that Republicans are actively trying to ban abortion in VA. Just admit that you think it’s acceptable if they ban abortion.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is not banning it, you twit.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is banning abortion after 15 weeks, leaving women with wanted babies who have horrendous diagnoses no choice but to deliver them, endangering their own health and future fertility. And Youngkin specifically said he’d sign anything the legislature gave him, not just a 15-week ban.

Interesting that you're deliberately leaving out the usual caveats - "exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother." But it's totally understandable that you continue to mislead, gaslight, and flat-out lie to anyone you can get to listen to you.

How are those “caveats” working so far in the states th at claim to have them?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree

Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.

So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?

Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.

Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
DP

It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.

It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.

No, it’s not porn. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography
Pornography–"porn" or "porno" for short–is material that depicts nudity or sexual acts for the purpose of sexual stimulation. However, the presence of nudity or sexual acts in piece of media does not necessarily make that media pornographic if the purpose of that media form is something other than sexual stimulation

If you actually read the books you’d know they weren’t intended for sexual stimulation.

And what is appropriate for a high school student is different than what’s appropriate for a kindergartner. You can’t post the word beetch on DCUM. That’s not really a test of anything.

You have got to be kidding. By now, we've all seen the pictures depicting two girls having oral sex (with a dildo), the description of the vibrator, the phone/texting sex conversation, the description and recollection of a childhood sexual experience, etc. Good grief. You seem intent on gaslighting away the graphically sexual images in these books.

Talk about deliberately obtuse. No one takes you seriously at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

THANK YOU. I am beyond sick of the sanctimonious liberals on this site, lecturing others about who to vote for (or not vote for). Stay in your lane, Ds. We're all entitled to our vote and many of us are simply not obsessed with the abortion issue, as you are.

Your vote, your choice. But own it.

If you vote R you are saying you are ok if the Rs ban abortion. Maybe you’re ambivalent but that is 100% your choice.

What part of the above post is not "owning" my choice? Get over yourself. No one is going to "ban" abortion, just like no one is "banning" books, you moron. I FULLY own my vote. Again: stay in your lane.

You aren’t owning it because you refuse to admit that Republicans are actively trying to ban abortion in VA. Just admit that you think it’s acceptable if they ban abortion.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is not banning it, you twit.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is banning abortion after 15 weeks, leaving women with wanted babies who have horrendous diagnoses no choice but to deliver them, endangering their own health and future fertility. And Youngkin specifically said he’d sign anything the legislature gave him, not just a 15-week ban.

Interesting that you're deliberately leaving out the usual caveats - "exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother." But it's totally understandable that you continue to mislead, gaslight, and flat-out lie to anyone you can get to listen to you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

THANK YOU. I am beyond sick of the sanctimonious liberals on this site, lecturing others about who to vote for (or not vote for). Stay in your lane, Ds. We're all entitled to our vote and many of us are simply not obsessed with the abortion issue, as you are.

Your vote, your choice. But own it.

If you vote R you are saying you are ok if the Rs ban abortion. Maybe you’re ambivalent but that is 100% your choice.

What part of the above post is not "owning" my choice? Get over yourself. No one is going to "ban" abortion, just like no one is "banning" books, you moron. I FULLY own my vote. Again: stay in your lane.

You hate America and have values that are wildly out of step with those of mainstream Virginian voters. Sucks to be you.

Says the LWNJ who embodies every word in that statement. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree

Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.

So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?

Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.

Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
DP

It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.

It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.

Crickets... as expected.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

THANK YOU. I am beyond sick of the sanctimonious liberals on this site, lecturing others about who to vote for (or not vote for). Stay in your lane, Ds. We're all entitled to our vote and many of us are simply not obsessed with the abortion issue, as you are.

Your vote, your choice. But own it.

If you vote R you are saying you are ok if the Rs ban abortion. Maybe you’re ambivalent but that is 100% your choice.

What part of the above post is not "owning" my choice? Get over yourself. No one is going to "ban" abortion, just like no one is "banning" books, you moron. I FULLY own my vote. Again: stay in your lane.

You aren’t owning it because you refuse to admit that Republicans are actively trying to ban abortion in VA. Just admit that you think it’s acceptable if they ban abortion.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is not banning it, you twit.

It’s restricting it further. No further restrictions. Keep the government out of people’s personal reproductive decisions. The end.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

THANK YOU. I am beyond sick of the sanctimonious liberals on this site, lecturing others about who to vote for (or not vote for). Stay in your lane, Ds. We're all entitled to our vote and many of us are simply not obsessed with the abortion issue, as you are.

Your vote, your choice. But own it.

If you vote R you are saying you are ok if the Rs ban abortion. Maybe you’re ambivalent but that is 100% your choice.

What part of the above post is not "owning" my choice? Get over yourself. No one is going to "ban" abortion, just like no one is "banning" books, you moron. I FULLY own my vote. Again: stay in your lane.

You aren’t owning it because you refuse to admit that Republicans are actively trying to ban abortion in VA. Just admit that you think it’s acceptable if they ban abortion.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is not banning it, you twit.

It’s restricting it further. No further restrictions. Keep the government out of people’s personal reproductive decisions. The end.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

THANK YOU. I am beyond sick of the sanctimonious liberals on this site, lecturing others about who to vote for (or not vote for). Stay in your lane, Ds. We're all entitled to our vote and many of us are simply not obsessed with the abortion issue, as you are.

Your vote, your choice. But own it.

If you vote R you are saying you are ok if the Rs ban abortion. Maybe you’re ambivalent but that is 100% your choice.

What part of the above post is not "owning" my choice? Get over yourself. No one is going to "ban" abortion, just like no one is "banning" books, you moron. I FULLY own my vote. Again: stay in your lane.

You aren’t owning it because you refuse to admit that Republicans are actively trying to ban abortion in VA. Just admit that you think it’s acceptable if they ban abortion.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is not banning it, you twit.

Limiting abortion to 15 weeks is banning abortion after 15 weeks, leaving women with wanted babies who have horrendous diagnoses no choice but to deliver them, endangering their own health and future fertility. And Youngkin specifically said he’d sign anything the legislature gave him, not just a 15-week ban.

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Women don’t even get the anatomy scan until 20w.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity

You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.

That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree

Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.

So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?

Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.

Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
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It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.

It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.

No, it’s not porn. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography
Pornography–"porn" or "porno" for short–is material that depicts nudity or sexual acts for the purpose of sexual stimulation. However, the presence of nudity or sexual acts in piece of media does not necessarily make that media pornographic if the purpose of that media form is something other than sexual stimulation

If you actually read the books you’d know they weren’t intended for sexual stimulation.

And what is appropriate for a high school student is different than what’s appropriate for a kindergartner. You can’t post the word beetch on DCUM. That’s not really a test of anything.