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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]our church recently did a climate survey.  the #1 thing people said why they weren't attending, the politicization of church, the focus changed to all the woke movements and the church went too far for the folks attending so they stopped going, stopped giving and the church got slammed in the climate survey.  [/quote]

Yep. Bud lighted the church.[/quote]
There are plenty of churches out there that preach conservative politics, if that's what someone is looking for. I think there is a difference between:

a. Defining politicization of the church as the church taking a political stance [i]at all[/i] (either anti-abortion/anti-LGBTQ OR pro-climate science/LGBTQ-friendly)
b. Defining politicization of the church as the church taking a political stance with which the congregant disagrees (i.e. my personal politics are conservative and my pastor is preaching in favor of accepting gay members)

If one is complaining that churches are political and one just wants a place to step away from politics and praise God, then that's fine.

If one is complaining that churches are taking political stances with which one personally disagrees, then just go find a new church. There are plenty on both sides of the political spectrum.[/quote]

I posted the Bud lighted comment and I don't want a church that preaches either left or right politics.
Some churches don't seem to get that.[/quote]

Churches get forced politics whether or not that want to. Can women be ordained? Can gay marriage be performed? Can gay clergy be ordained? Answer any of those three questions and you've taken a political stance [/quote]

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