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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People are just cheapskates now.

In college a couple of “girls” yes we called 18-20 year old women girls worked at a nice restaurant near college and earned enough to pay for college and buy cars.

Tips were all cash back then.

Today a $100 bill your $20 dollar tip on Amex by the time you remove all the credit car fees, payroll taxes, some place they give a cut to bus boys and hostess your 20 percent tip is 10-12 percent.

Also in College way less casual dining places like Applebees. Sit down restaurants were for birthdays, anniversaries, communions, engagement parties or business men on expense accounts.

And in regards to tipping my father worked in a tips placed business from 1955 to 1977. 20 percent was standard tip payable on credit card or corporate account. Was automatically charged. Good customers tipped cash on top. They also bought food, gave tickets to events.

My father had a limo business. I recall in a blizzard at two am he got a call on house phone at two an and rescued a stranded customer. Drove a customer 18 hours one in an emergency. Last minute trips etc.

And my dad also has to tip. Do you think he got reservations to sold out restaurant or hotel or best seats at play for customers without tipping. Do you think I he sat in front of theater or club without buying cops some coffee or tipping bouncer to watch out.

My mom was a waitress too 15 years. She lived in Manhattan and people tipped much better.

Today people are being shamed to tip because they are cheating staff who work there [/quote]

Back then tips were earned and I bet the folks you talk about here earned it.  Today, it seems like an entitlement and a forced money grab regardless of quality of service. Big difference.  [/quote]

This. I mean, first of all, back in the 50s-70s, no one tipped 20%. People tipped 10-15%. You'd get a cup of coffee for a dollar and tip a dime.

But yes, the expectations for customer service were higher. As a server, if you wanted good tips, you needed to smile and be welcoming, be ready to answer questions and respond promptly to requests. Even at a diner with relatively cheap food, but anywhere really. The concept of hospitality as a skillset was alive and well, and the people who made the most on tips were the people who were best at that skillset.

Now there is this attitude that someone working in hospitality has no obligation to be friendly, kind, or welcoming. Perhaps the best tipped position these days is bartending, and there's very little expectation that bartenders will be hospitable. But the expectation is that you will tip 20% on every single drink. 15 years ago this was not the expectation -- it was normal for people to tip a dollar on a drink costing $10 or less, since these drinks were usually exceedingly simple (a beer, a glass of wine, a very simple mixed drink). Now that's considered cheap -- you are supposed to give your bartender $2 for handing you a beer from the fridge. But the bartender isn't expected to be nice about it. It's confounding.

And yeah, college costs are now way, way higher than they once were, that's why you can't pay your way through college waiting tables anymore. When I went to college in the 80s, you could pay for state college by working an of a number of low paying jobs over the summer and living with your parents. That's not possible anymore, even for the least expensive state schools. But that has nothing to do with tipping. I paid for most of my college by working as a summer nanny, I never got tips. But college was cheap.[/quote]

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