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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Karen's have been busy on this board I see.[/quote]

the Karen thing is so tired and lame.[/quote]

You're right it is. Shouldn't have used that. But, I've also never lived in an area where people bitch and whine as much as they do in this area. People need to learn to suck it up. No matter how you crack it - and whatever your political affiliation - over 100,000 people have died from this thing and all people are griping about is how summer swim is cancelled and that they basically (when you cut through all the layered BS) can't socialize at the pool. Those who are complaining about under-utilized pool space and wanting to get more lap swimming in - fair point and 100% agree.

Stop the entitled whining. Or call it being a "Karen". I don't care. [/quote]

I think the issue is how arbitrary the application of the rules is. See the beach/restaurant/outdoor pool comparisons. The requirements for pools seem overly restrictive in comparison, especially when outdoor swimming at a pool is constantly rated as a low risk activity compared to other examples.[/quote]

I am the one who you replied to. This is a fair point and a logical expression. My spouse runs a pool in the area. I know the effort put in - over several months - to develop a plan for Phase 1. I think the different applications go back to liability. A beach is essentially run by the government (city/town/state/etc.). It is a use at your own risk scenario. Pools are run by HOAs, Country Clubs, etc. They in many instances are run/governed by an all volunteer board. The risk threshold for each pool varies by how comfortable the governing authority is. Hence the arbitrary application of the rules. Think of when you have done pickup at a local restaurant. Do they all do the exact same thing? Likely no. They have regulations they must comply with but how to achieve those is applied differently. I've seen anywhere from table shoved in front of a counter to create a 6 foot space to an entire wall of plexiglass built to separate the counter from the customers. I think this is a good forum to share thoughts and ideas on how to accomplish the same thing but the whining drives me nits. [/quote]

no that's not right.  There has been a small amount of complaining about how different pools implement lap swimming.  What you are seeing a lot of complaining about now is how the GOVERNMENT has laid out completely arbitrary rules for how pools operate in Phase 2 as compared to what beaches, restaurants, practically any other activity- is allowed to do.  That's what seems arbitrary.   I'm a volunteer board member too--- I'm complaining about what the GOVERNMENT is doing that is arbitrary.   There is no increased COVID risk if I float in the pool vs if I float in the ocean- or if my kids 'play' in the pool as compared to the ocean.  But the GOVERNMENT has decreed that ocean 'recreational' swimming is okay- but pool recreational swimming is limited to 'exercise, lap swimming, diving, and instruction.'  Is going down the slide a 'riskier' covid activity than going off diving board?   Is jumping off the diving board a riskier covid activity than diving off the diving board?  Of course not.  That's what we are saying is arbitrary.[/quote]

They decided that because the travel and tourism industry has organized lobbyists and deep pockets to carve out their own exemptions to everything. The recreational pool and pool club industry does not. They were unable to effectively lobby the government and now must remain fairly closed. It’s just shocking to most of us to see this play out in real life. [/quote]

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