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I would say some of it is race. Trying to not get longwinded about it, non-white students are being educated into a culture that is not their own in many respects, I think especially with regard to English. I feel like what made me good at testing was an acculturation into a certain model of reading and 'good' English usage (I'm a white man) and if you don't feel like that's for you - I think that ends up creating a wedge. Just one aspect, but part of the mix, in my opinion.

What about Asian immigrants scoring so well on verbal SAT? Or South East Asians dominating spelling bees?

Or African immigrants. I don't buy this argument at all.
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All of those above-referenced groups, even though they may speak their birth language at home, are learning "proper" English grammar in school.  They are not being exposed to grammatically improper English from birth in the home environment.  Am from a part of the south where there is a lot of rural white poverty and those kids ---who say "ain't", "hit don't" and "thar"---have the same issues on standardized tests as lower SES urban AA kids.  [/quote]

I too come from an area where improper grammar is rampant in the local dialect without regard to race ("Where ya goin' at?" instead of "Where are you going?"), and it is true that unless you are in a school that actively "unteaches" you the bad grammar while also teaching proper English grammar and usage, the dialect has a huge negative impact on standardized tests.
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