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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As someone who has been involved in accident investigations, I prefer that the crewmember information NOT be released at this stage. It should be anonymized during the course of the investigation, so as to avoid any risk of subconscious bias (or even the appearance of such). Let the investigation go where the data leads. Once a probable cause has been determined, IF there is reason to suspect that the skills, training or experience of the personnel were a factor, THEN proceed to examine their records to determine where those factors fell short. The only reason to examine records at this point, before anyone has a full picture of what happened, is to scapegoat the least experienced member of the team. (And btw, it's not always the least experienced person who actually made the mistake! Another good reason to wait for the investigation to conclude on the evidence before jumping to blame any individual.)[/quote] That sounds reasonable. But that also isn’t how things are done here. The two other crew members’ names have been released. The American Airlines pilots’ names have been released. They are withholding one name. The name of the women thought it have been flying the helicopter. That is shady. I cannot recall any transportation disaster that has killed as many people as this where the pilot, captain, driver, etc. name isn’t released [/quote] Trump prematurely blamed the pilot during a national press conference. He needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. He is the reason her name hasn’t been released. He is the reason that her family will probably be terrorized. [/quote] Anyone who has seen the video can come to that conclusion.[/quote] Actually, half the people on this thread were talking about ATC. Some people are [i]still[/i] talking about a "perfect storm" like there is blame to go around. Really, the thread shifted dramatically to blame the helicopter exclusively only once it was known that the pilot was a woman. So, please don't act like everyone is judging based on evidence. Also, reasonable people who assume that [i]helo[/i] is at fault do not single out the pilot. We have all heard the male voice talking to ATC. There is every reason to assume he is part of the fatal error. There is the soldier in the back, who we have been told has a significant role - he has a part, too. If it was a training flight, then a person supervising must take on the ultimate responsibility. In no way, is it obvious to me that this is one pilot's responsibility. Moreover, what about the military, who several people on this thread with connections, have said disregard non-military protocol, flout non-military authority, and casually make up their own rules... what about them?? If that is indeed the culture, and helos routinely fly at 400ft altitude right next to National, then of course the military shares in the blame, too. Maybe the lion's share. And what about the "VIP" culture of flying to avoid ground traffic? If it turns out that that is part of the story, of course that is part of the problem, too! And even in this situation, I don't put the blame directly on the VIP, but on the people who allow it and approve the practice. No matter what the situation is, though, a person with any leadership skills (much less an ounce of human decency) doesn't say what Trump said right after the accident. Once again, he has shown himself to be thoroughly unpresidential.[/quote] Yes and nobody is hiding the names of the other people on the helicopter. Just the one. Reasonable people can also conclude that is odd. [/quote] Look, I disagree with hiding the name. And I also think it is making everything worse. But there are pretty obvious, not suspicious reasons why they are doing so, including the totally reasonable fear of vigilante street justice.[/quote] The family is withholding the name. They have a right to grieve without maga dragging their loved one for being a woman. They are likely scared based on what is happening right in front of our faces.[/quote] We all understand why the family is withholding the name (exhibit A all over this thread). We also understand that the army is saying that they are keeping the name quiet out of deference to the family's wishes. Some people think that the military has ulterior motives. I am not a conspiracy theorist but I tend to believe that the military does what is best for them. It may simply be that they are buying some time.[/quote]
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