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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can help but wonder what would have happened if the ATC had been a tad more explicit in his second communication: "PAT 25 you are on collision course with plane landing at runway 33". I'm not saying he was or should have been required to say this but I wonder if the ATCs at Reagan should NOT have placed so much trust in military helos given all the issues that have apparently been going on forever with near collisions and planes having to abort landing and them flying above 200. Maybe if they were not short staffed, the ATC might have said something more explicit. [/quote]

DH is a private pilot. The ATC’s instruction and comments are very standard - it sounds like what I’ve heard every time I’m with DH.

Would’ve been great if ATC had been more specific or whatever, but I also think he’s just seeing it on radar. The planes also have automatic scanning to notify you of other planes around you. It sounds like in this case both the plane and the helicopter were both maneuvering at the same time so maybe their systems missed it.

My guess is the helicopter didn’t let the ATC know what they were doing, unlike the AA plane which asked for and received approval to land. [/quote]

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