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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They handled that in a very mature manner.[/quote] Right, this type of thing had gone on since time immemorial in academia. It sounds like when the affair I occurred , the student was 22 and the school had no policy against it. I was asked out by my professor at the U of Michigan, in grad school. And when I was at Johns Hopkins, a married department chair started an affair with a student he was supervising . It was wrong, but absolutely known by the whole department. I am happy that such situations have been officially banned now, in some universities . But that is a recent development and people are naive if they did know how common (and condoned) this has been historically. (For shocked posters, read up on Emmanuel Macron’s marriage!) [/quote] It’s discouraged but I don’t think it’s universally banned nor should it be. Some of these relationships end happily in long term relationships. As long as the dynamic is not coercive and there is no harassment, I don’t see the problem. It seems wrong to dictate to grown adults who they can and can’t fall in love with. [/quote] I figure you're the same PP who keeps coming back and making a huge effort to normalize this "relationship" and excuse it, while also being sure to throw the parents under the bus. Maybe there's more than one of you here, twisting yourselves into pretzels to try to make this a love match between adults. You have no grasp of the idea that some relationships have a power differential. Even between "grown adults." At the time of this affair the student was just that, an undergraduate student, and her lover was a dean. Not even some garden-variety grad student or adjunct--a powerful dean. The fact you keep returning to insist this is how things were in the past, how some people end up "happily in long term relationships," etc. etc. ad nauseam, is jaw-dropping. Either you're very naive about power differentials or you have been in such a relationship yourself and feel it was true love. Feelings are not the issue. Authority figures having sexual relationships with people under their authority is the issue. The dean should have kept her mitts off the undergrad, feelings or not, even if the student was hot for her. End of story. Your excuse-making, which I'm sure you see as mature and subtle thinking, only comes off here as grotesque. [/quote]
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