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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION

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[quote=Anonymous]The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity![/quote][/quote]

The fact that union membership went down as top-1% share of wealth went up is true and a big deal. But it doesn't really have a lot to do with teachers' unions - teachers aren't fighting for a bigger share of the profits of wealth corporations to be shared with the employees rather than the owners. Public sector unions are really different from private sector unions for this reason: private sector unions exist in large part to fight for a bigger share of the company pie. That dynamic is really different in the public sector.[/quote]

Teachers unions are fighting for increases in salaries, more prep time, better support with professional development, more support in the classroom, better sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, more vacation time, etc….

It’s the same thing you want in your job except instead of you, as a single employee, trying to negotiate this, it’s all the employees at your company.  Unions can be powerful groups and definately are taken more seriously at the negotiating table.

Charters should have teachers union if the teachers want that.  MV broke that glass ceiling in this town and good for them.  I’m glad DCI is following[/quote]

DP. I get all of that, but then I think of the Chicago teachers union who closed schools for 2+ weeks to negotiate some of these things. That has a real impact on kids and families. [/quote]

PP here.  Teachers do care about the kids.  They don’t want to close schools and this is a last resort measure I’m sure.  There are thousands of teachers union and just because you hear of 1 closing schools doesn’t mean that is the norm.  It’s not.  Most time negotiating are reached

I would also add that you need to think long term.  Yes 2 weeks of school closing in Chicago impacted families but teachers leaving, behavioral issues in the classroom, and whatever else impacts your kids and the school a whole lot more when teachers are not happy, morale is low, and they have a teacher shortage and are unable to hire more, etc.. [/quote]

LOL--how quickly you dismiss just "one" random union closing schools. Chicago public schools have one of the largest teacher's unions in the country. Closing ALL public schools for 2 weeks (it may have actually been more) had a massive, wide-spread impact on families.

This is not to insinuate that teachers don't care about kids because plenty of them do. And I also understand that historically, unions have served an important role in our society. But let's not act like teacher's unions are able to fix all of those things you cited. 99.9% of the time it's about money and benefits--which I can understand--but there's only so much any public school district is able to do about kids with behavioral issues for example. [/quote]

It was one district closing, whatever the size.  You realize there are lots of large teachers unions in dozens of cities all over the country. I won’t even add thousands in large and small towns and everywhere else.  So please tell us how many other of the thousands of teachers unions in the country closed schools that year.  It is NOT the norm.

As to examples of how teachers unions can directly help kids and families, see below.  It’s nit just money and benefits.

https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/5-ways-strong-educator-unions-help-public-schools

If you are a parent and don’t support your teachers having a union, that’s your perogative. But don’t complain when teachers leave because parents like you don’t support them and they feel they don’t have a collective voice at the bargaining table.  Good luck having subs and bigger class sizes because you don’t have enough teachers.
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