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Anonymous wrote:So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION



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Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

The fact that union membership went down as top-1% share of wealth went up is true and a big deal. But it doesn't really have a lot to do with teachers' unions - teachers aren't fighting for a bigger share of the profits of wealth corporations to be shared with the employees rather than the owners. Public sector unions are really different from private sector unions for this reason: private sector unions exist in large part to fight for a bigger share of the company pie. That dynamic is really different in the public sector.

Teachers unions are fighting for increases in salaries, more prep time, better support with professional development, more support in the classroom, better sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, more vacation time, etc….

It’s the same thing you want in your job except instead of you, as a single employee, trying to negotiate this, it’s all the employees at your company. Unions can be powerful groups and definately are taken more seriously at the negotiating table.

Charters should have teachers union if the teachers want that. MV broke that glass ceiling in this town and good for them. I’m glad DCI is following

DP. I get all of that, but then I think of the Chicago teachers union who closed schools for 2+ weeks to negotiate some of these things. That has a real impact on kids and families.

PP here. Teachers do care about the kids. They don’t want to close schools and this is a last resort measure I’m sure. There are thousands of teachers union and just because you hear of 1 closing schools doesn’t mean that is the norm. It’s not. Most time negotiating are reached

I would also add that you need to think long term. Yes 2 weeks of school closing in Chicago impacted families but teachers leaving, behavioral issues in the classroom, and whatever else impacts your kids and the school a whole lot more when teachers are not happy, morale is low, and they have a teacher shortage and are unable to hire more, etc..

LOL--how quickly you dismiss just "one" random union closing schools. Chicago public schools have one of the largest teacher's unions in the country. Closing ALL public schools for 2 weeks (it may have actually been more) had a massive, wide-spread impact on families.

This is not to insinuate that teachers don't care about kids because plenty of them do. And I also understand that historically, unions have served an important role in our society. But let's not act like teacher's unions are able to fix all of those things you cited. 99.9% of the time it's about money and benefits--which I can understand--but there's only so much any public school district is able to do about kids with behavioral issues for example.

It was one district closing, whatever the size. You realize there are lots of large teachers unions in dozens of cities all over the country. I won’t even add thousands in large and small towns and everywhere else. So please tell us how many other of the thousands of teachers unions in the country closed schools that year. It is NOT the norm.

As to examples of how teachers unions can directly help kids and families, see below. It’s nit just money and benefits.

https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/5-ways-strong-educator-unions-help-public-schools

If you are a parent and don’t support your teachers having a union, that’s your perogative. But don’t complain when teachers leave because parents like you don’t support them and they feel they don’t have a collective voice at the bargaining table. Good luck having subs and bigger class sizes because you don’t have enough teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION



[img]https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/jy1708-Figure1.png

Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

The fact that union membership went down as top-1% share of wealth went up is true and a big deal. But it doesn't really have a lot to do with teachers' unions - teachers aren't fighting for a bigger share of the profits of wealth corporations to be shared with the employees rather than the owners. Public sector unions are really different from private sector unions for this reason: private sector unions exist in large part to fight for a bigger share of the company pie. That dynamic is really different in the public sector.

Teachers unions are fighting for increases in salaries, more prep time, better support with professional development, more support in the classroom, better sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, more vacation time, etc….

It’s the same thing you want in your job except instead of you, as a single employee, trying to negotiate this, it’s all the employees at your company. Unions can be powerful groups and definately are taken more seriously at the negotiating table.

Charters should have teachers union if the teachers want that. MV broke that glass ceiling in this town and good for them. I’m glad DCI is following

DP. I get all of that, but then I think of the Chicago teachers union who closed schools for 2+ weeks to negotiate some of these things. That has a real impact on kids and families.

Being a teacher with a lapsed contract and hostile leadership also has a real impact on kids and families. This is our reality in DC.

https://x.com/wtuteacher/status/1777297843113644035?s=46&t=EwM4bfthPj_yHwyhXgwkdw

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Anonymous wrote:So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION



[img]https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/jy1708-Figure1.png

Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

The fact that union membership went down as top-1% share of wealth went up is true and a big deal. But it doesn't really have a lot to do with teachers' unions - teachers aren't fighting for a bigger share of the profits of wealth corporations to be shared with the employees rather than the owners. Public sector unions are really different from private sector unions for this reason: private sector unions exist in large part to fight for a bigger share of the company pie. That dynamic is really different in the public sector.

Teachers unions are fighting for increases in salaries, more prep time, better support with professional development, more support in the classroom, better sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, more vacation time, etc….

It’s the same thing you want in your job except instead of you, as a single employee, trying to negotiate this, it’s all the employees at your company. Unions can be powerful groups and definately are taken more seriously at the negotiating table.

Charters should have teachers union if the teachers want that. MV broke that glass ceiling in this town and good for them. I’m glad DCI is following

DP. I get all of that, but then I think of the Chicago teachers union who closed schools for 2+ weeks to negotiate some of these things. That has a real impact on kids and families.

PP here. Teachers do care about the kids. They don’t want to close schools and this is a last resort measure I’m sure. There are thousands of teachers union and just because you hear of 1 closing schools doesn’t mean that is the norm. It’s not. Most time negotiating are reached

I would also add that you need to think long term. Yes 2 weeks of school closing in Chicago impacted families but teachers leaving, behavioral issues in the classroom, and whatever else impacts your kids and the school a whole lot more when teachers are not happy, morale is low, and they have a teacher shortage and are unable to hire more, etc..

LOL--how quickly you dismiss just "one" random union closing schools. Chicago public schools have one of the largest teacher's unions in the country. Closing ALL public schools for 2 weeks (it may have actually been more) had a massive, wide-spread impact on families.

This is not to insinuate that teachers don't care about kids because plenty of them do. And I also understand that historically, unions have served an important role in our society. But let's not act like teacher's unions are able to fix all of those things you cited. 99.9% of the time it's about money and benefits--which I can understand--but there's only so much any public school district is able to do about kids with behavioral issues for example.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION



[img]https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/jy1708-Figure1.png

Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

The fact that union membership went down as top-1% share of wealth went up is true and a big deal. But it doesn't really have a lot to do with teachers' unions - teachers aren't fighting for a bigger share of the profits of wealth corporations to be shared with the employees rather than the owners. Public sector unions are really different from private sector unions for this reason: private sector unions exist in large part to fight for a bigger share of the company pie. That dynamic is really different in the public sector.

Teachers unions are fighting for increases in salaries, more prep time, better support with professional development, more support in the classroom, better sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, more vacation time, etc….

It’s the same thing you want in your job except instead of you, as a single employee, trying to negotiate this, it’s all the employees at your company. Unions can be powerful groups and definately are taken more seriously at the negotiating table.

Charters should have teachers union if the teachers want that. MV broke that glass ceiling in this town and good for them. I’m glad DCI is following

DP. I get all of that, but then I think of the Chicago teachers union who closed schools for 2+ weeks to negotiate some of these things. That has a real impact on kids and families.

PP here. Teachers do care about the kids. They don’t want to close schools and this is a last resort measure I’m sure. There are thousands of teachers union and just because you hear of 1 closing schools doesn’t mean that is the norm. It’s not. Most time negotiating are reached

I would also add that you need to think long term. Yes 2 weeks of school closing in Chicago impacted families but teachers leaving, behavioral issues in the classroom, and whatever else impacts your kids and the school a whole lot more when teachers are not happy, morale is low, and they have a teacher shortage and are unable to hire more, etc..

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION



[img]https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/jy1708-Figure1.png

Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

The fact that union membership went down as top-1% share of wealth went up is true and a big deal. But it doesn't really have a lot to do with teachers' unions - teachers aren't fighting for a bigger share of the profits of wealth corporations to be shared with the employees rather than the owners. Public sector unions are really different from private sector unions for this reason: private sector unions exist in large part to fight for a bigger share of the company pie. That dynamic is really different in the public sector.

Teachers unions are fighting for increases in salaries, more prep time, better support with professional development, more support in the classroom, better sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, more vacation time, etc….

It’s the same thing you want in your job except instead of you, as a single employee, trying to negotiate this, it’s all the employees at your company. Unions can be powerful groups and definately are taken more seriously at the negotiating table.

Charters should have teachers union if the teachers want that. MV broke that glass ceiling in this town and good for them. I’m glad DCI is following

DP. I get all of that, but then I think of the Chicago teachers union who closed schools for 2+ weeks to negotiate some of these things. That has a real impact on kids and families.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION



[img]https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/jy1708-Figure1.png

Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

The fact that union membership went down as top-1% share of wealth went up is true and a big deal. But it doesn't really have a lot to do with teachers' unions - teachers aren't fighting for a bigger share of the profits of wealth corporations to be shared with the employees rather than the owners. Public sector unions are really different from private sector unions for this reason: private sector unions exist in large part to fight for a bigger share of the company pie. That dynamic is really different in the public sector.

Teachers unions are fighting for increases in salaries, more prep time, better support with professional development, more support in the classroom, better sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, more vacation time, etc….

It’s the same thing you want in your job except instead of you, as a single employee, trying to negotiate this, it’s all the employees at your company. Unions can be powerful groups and definately are taken more seriously at the negotiating table.

Charters should have teachers union if the teachers want that. MV broke that glass ceiling in this town and good for them. I’m glad DCI is following

And I say this as a parent with no kids at DCI. Teachers that are happy is good for the school, morale, retention, etc….

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION



[img]https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/jy1708-Figure1.png

Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

The fact that union membership went down as top-1% share of wealth went up is true and a big deal. But it doesn't really have a lot to do with teachers' unions - teachers aren't fighting for a bigger share of the profits of wealth corporations to be shared with the employees rather than the owners. Public sector unions are really different from private sector unions for this reason: private sector unions exist in large part to fight for a bigger share of the company pie. That dynamic is really different in the public sector.

Teachers unions are fighting for increases in salaries, more prep time, better support with professional development, more support in the classroom, better sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, more vacation time, etc….

It’s the same thing you want in your job except instead of you, as a single employee, trying to negotiate this, it’s all the employees at your company. Unions can be powerful groups and definately are taken more seriously at the negotiating table.

Charters should have teachers union if the teachers want that. MV broke that glass ceiling in this town and good for them. I’m glad DCI is following

Anonymous wrote:So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION



[img]https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/jy1708-Figure1.png

Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

The fact that union membership went down as top-1% share of wealth went up is true and a big deal. But it doesn't really have a lot to do with teachers' unions - teachers aren't fighting for a bigger share of the profits of wealth corporations to be shared with the employees rather than the owners. Public sector unions are really different from private sector unions for this reason: private sector unions exist in large part to fight for a bigger share of the company pie. That dynamic is really different in the public sector.

So happy for DCI staff.

Working class America need UNION



[img]https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/jy1708-Figure1.png

Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

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Anonymous wrote:The staff at DCI publicly announced the formation of their union yesterday and asked the ED for voluntary recognition (hopefully he does). Huge shout out to everyone who made this happen and I hope they receive all the support in the world. Our children will be better served if their teachers are respected and treated with dignity!

lol. 2020-2021 would like to have a word with you about teachers unions.

Oh STFU, so sick of hearing this. Teachers didn't even get a contract until 2023. Their main demand about their evaluation system that American University found racist btw, is still in place. Teacher's unions can be powerful but not DCPS'.
Also data does not show schools that opened earlier are doing better, look up some data and check your facts before making such a basic comment.

Lol good news I looked up some data and students at schools that opened earlier are having far better outcomes: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/18/upshot/pandemic-school-closures-data.html

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Anonymous wrote:So much spin in this thread. MV Cook teachers are leaving because the leadership has been ineffective in addressing both teachers and parents' concerns. To claim that teachers are leaving because of the union is absurd -- teachers are leaving because school leaders have lacked transparency and communication and have done little to address the problems there. In this case the union and parents are aligned in what they are asking of school administrators there: protections, accountability, transparency, and communication.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/06/16/mundo-verde-charter-protest-dc/

Are you staying there are ongoing concerns. And having a union has not had any impact on addressing the concerns?

Do you understand how unions work? They cannot unilaterally make administrators that are bad at their jobs perform better at their jobs... obviously?

Many in this thread have suggested that the existence of the Union itself has made teachers worse off, or pushed them to leave their jobs. This is not the case.

The ED of MV is leaving? Are you sure?

Anonymous wrote:didnt we learn during the pandemic that the teachers union will throw your child under the bus without a second thought?

We learned that, like police unions, teachers unions are kind of evil.

I'm so impressed by the dedication of teachers at DCI! Over 70% of them signed a petition to unionize, showing real commitment to the school. I saw the video of them delivering the petition, and I was proud to recognize so many wonderful teachers who taught my own child. If you're interested in supporting them, you can follow their journey on Instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5YQf-Wrh2E/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Anonymous wrote:MV parent here. the administration, led by the executive director, has been woeful. Glad the ED is leaving. Post unionization MV teachers seem more supported...and hopefully, now that ED is going, positive changes can continue to happen. My student will be attending DCI and i'm happy the teachers there unionized, sounds like the schools faced/face similar issues.

Former MV parent, current DCI parent. Thankfully, at least as far as I can tell, the situation is nowhere near as bad at DCI. Kids are so much happier. Communication is so much better. Perfect? No. But night and day difference.