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[quote=Anonymous]I think the thing about narcissists and friends is that a narcissist can be super charming and fun to be around...as long as you are on their good side or they need you for something. That's why spouses married to a narcissist often haven difficulty convincing other people that they are being abused either physically or emotionally, because all the other people see is the charming side. It also makes it hard for the spouse to leave because they question their perception of reality.

I've been friends with people who while perhaps not full blown narcissists have definitely had those traits. And when it's fun, it's really fun. You feel like you are part of a special inner circle. It changes you and you don't even notice you are changing. I was lucky, my narcissist moved away and I've been cleaning up the aftermath for several years now as I try to remember who I am without them.

And I'm not saying that Jen is a full blown narcissist. I'm not qualified to make that diagnosis. But she has some of the traits, so I think that some of the same relational dynamics apply. To some degree in order to be a public figure like Jen you almost HAVE to have a bit of the narcissist in you, because you have to believe that the world is waiting to hear what you have to say. I think it takes an incredible balancing act to be in that space and maintain a healthy, balanced view of yourself. I'm pretty sure it takes more than a BetterHelp therapist.

(And I think ultimately that's why this board interests me. Because human nature is fascinating and yes, I geek out on analyzing the hows and whys of the ways people act. And Jen makes a great case study because we've got years of info on her that she has put into the public realm all on her own, and it's interesting to see the evolution of Jen over the span of the years, from Christian mommy blogger and pastor's wife to shiller of multiple products and wanna be social media influencer.)[/quote]

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