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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]He's just plain good. [twitter]https://x.com/Acyn/status/1822065458402750866[/twitter]

and shows empathy. [twitter]https://x.com/kelsientaggart/status/1822069311529169007[/twitter][/quote]

I’m voting down ballot and [b]leaving the top of the ticket blank or writing in Biden[/b], so I have no horse in this race, but the whole chest clutching, guffawing thing comes off as really fake and performative to me. Sorry.[/quote]

I've said this before: people who don't vote for one of the two main candidates are making a statement only to themselves. This literally helps nothing. In the race before us, there is a clearly better choice and whatever your reason for "writing in Biden," it will not be advanced by doing so.[/quote]

These kind of people are self-important drama queens. PP was just using it as an opportunity to take a dig at Walz. It’s just an inauthentic post. [/quote]

Different undecided voter here. People who are concerned about this far left ticket, who also refuse to vote for Trump, will just stay home.

I know it’s just a small subset of us, and the Dems are going after special interest groups with a large number of voters. So basically we are unhoused at the moment.

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Look, I understand.  I'm a RINO that is now a registered Independent.  I'm a Bush-41 republican who thinks that Reagan and Bush-41 are spinning in their graves after what Trump has done to the GOP.

The difference is that not only do I refuse to vote for Trump, I refuse to let him worm his way back into office just to pardon himself from his crimes.  I disagree with a lot of the DNC platform, but I will vote for Harris-Walz because I refuse to allow him to get back into office and further erode our government.  I think the damage that Trump would cause is far worse than anything that Harris can do in one term.  The same as Biden, we can recover from the things that Harris can do.  We cannot recover from changes that Trump would do.

Examples?  Trump would take us out of NATO which would have world-wide repercussions.  Such as changes which would allow Putin to continue his imperialistic ways.  Putin wants to reconstitue the Soviet Union under the Russian flag.  Trump would allow Russia to become the dominant superpower in the world.  Trump would continue to make the court system more and more conservative allowing the court system to deny more and more human rights to women and minorities.  Returning to the 1950s before the civil rights era is a terrible idea.  Women are and would die from the Republican system of denying health care to pregnant women because doctors are afraid of legal percussions should they treat their pregnant patients as their medical training suggests.  So they have to choose between their Hippocratic oaths and their legal obligations.  Families of LGBTQ parents will get torn apart since Thomas has already said he is targeting Obergefell and more conservative judges on lower courts will push up cases that will test that ruling to the SCOTUS.

Sorry, but I, too, long for a more reasonable Republican party, like we had when we were younger, but that will not happen as long as the MAGA movement have a stranglehold on the GOP.  To kill this monster, we need to cut off its head and keeping him from public office is paramount and the first step.  The ultra-conservatives have taken over the Republican party and the only way to get them out of power is to keep them from being elected.  If they cannot get a candidate elected, then they will lose power and maybe the more reasonable minded can regain power by showing that they can win in a general election.  [/quote]

Thank you for this post. One that actually helps those of us RINOs put things into perspective. I have never seen Trump as ultra-conservative and other than the conservative appointments to SCOTUS, I am unable to identify what he did that destroyed the country to the level that the left insists he did. As I just said in my last post, Trump really isn't an extreme conservative. He acts like one in his speech and performance, but his actions are not. In any event, can you help me understand how you can feel confident in the safety of our country with a Harris/Walz ticket? I truly feel like we won't really know who is actually running the country if we elect them. Neither of them are fit or capable of doing so. Their intellect is so low, with literally zero foreign policy experience that I just don't see how it's possible. With what happened to Biden, it is more clear than ever that we have a shadow government. Don't you want to know who that is?[/quote]

As I just said, I agree that Trump himself is not ultra-conservative.  But he knows that he built his coalition from ultra-conservative extremists.  So, he continues to give subtle nodes to those extreme groups and will occasionally do things that will damage our country to keep them in line.  This is how he maintains the MAGA devotion.

Classic examples, regarding Charlottesville, where there were white supremacists, Christian nationalists, and anti-Semites all gathered together, he gave them the subtle nod that there were "good people on both sides" hinting that he was supportive of their cause.  Since then, we have had a rise in violence against minorities.  Synagogue bombings, felony assaults on Asians (enough that states started to pass anti-Asian protection legislation), increase violence against Latinos.

He doesn't believe in abortion himself, but he put three very conservative anti-abortion judges on the Scotus, who would shred the practice of stare decisis and overturn Roe v Wade.  And he is willing to allow the extremists in his party to push for a national abortion ban that he would sign if it reached his desk.  He would probably also cater to Vance and his ultraconservatism to enact the travel ban on pregnant women who would no longer be allowed to travel out-of-state because they might terminate their pregnancy while out of state.  Because of his appointments of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett, pregnant women are and will continue to die of medically treatable conditions because doctors are afraid of treating a women in a way that might endanger their pregnancies or would not treat women if they might have to choose between the mother or the baby.  The current conservative approach says that the baby's life is more important than the mother's health, fertility or even life.

He is a wealthy business man and so he enacted a tax cut that would primarily benefit the ultra-wealthy and sold it as a tax cut for all, although the majority of the middle class and lower would not benefit from it at all.  He has helped increase the wage gap between CEOs and their employees.  It will become even more extreme when the rest of the package kicks in in 2025.

He caters to the militant nationalists with the "America First" policies.  He would withdraw us from NATO.  The first repercussion is that we would no longer help Europe stand against Putin and Russia and parts of eastern Europe would be annexed by Russia again.  The US is the major source of funding and military support for NATO.  He also has been friendly with Putin and Kim Jong Un.  His international politics distances the US from other democracies and ties us to authoritarian governments like Russia and North Korea.  I fear those will have repercussions that could take lifetimes to recover from.

Many of the changes that he would make could take a lifetime to recover from, and a lifetime that many women will not survive to see.  [/quote]

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