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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]15:22, repeating your quotes from earlier in the thread does not make them any more persuasive.

1. Clinton's strong support for women.  Women who work in the field of women's issues posted long, thoughtful commentary and specific examples of Hillary Clinton's work on behalf of women and girls.  You say she gave a "nice speech" in Beijing and you're happy she supports Planned Parenthood.  But you refused to give her credit for any of the other examples.  Your criticism seems to boil down to (1) she could have done even more, (2) the Clinton Foundation charity accepted money from Saudi Arabia and other countries, and (3) your constant refrain of NAFTA & welfare reform.

2. Sanders' non-existent record on women's issues.  You say he has a strong record on women's issues, and you say you "can't point to one moment in his entire career when he missed an opportunity to advocate for women."  Well, there's a lot more you haven't pointed to: such as one single specific thing Sanders has accomplished for women.  I'm not saying he's never done anything; I'm sure there is something in his record we could find.  But you certainly haven't given us anything except vague and unsupported claims that he's strong on women's issues.

[b]At this point, I think it's clear that Hillary Clinton has a far stronger record of work for women than Bernie Sanders.[/quote]
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I have posted many links and given plenty of concrete examples that you choose to ignore.

As far as which candidate really has a stronger record: It really depends on which issues are most important to you. If identity politics and the advancement of financially privileged women are the main points by which you define feminism, then you could say that Clinton is a "real" feminist.

If equality, fairness, justice, and the rights and protection of poor women, disadvantaged women, and working class women are part of your definition of feminist principles, then calling Clinton a feminist is quite a stretch. I understand the desire to minimize Clinton's contribution to legislation which has harmed women. I wouldn't want to think about that either if I was one of her enthusiastic supporters. If you believe the most important thing for the advancement of women is to have a woman president, perhaps it doesn't matter to you what her record has shown us about her values and principles. It really worries me. And I agree that she will probably be our next president. [/quote]

Yes. You're right.  Only feminists who just care about the rich think Clinton is a good feminist.  That's why the leaders of PP, NOW, and NARAL think so.  
You're so dismissive and condescending that you can't see the obvious flaws in your argument. [/quote]

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