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[quote=Anonymous]I will repost my comments from that part of the thread because I think they were fair and not dismissive. You can tell me where I have dismissed her actual accomplishments. I am tempted to edit a bit but I will not.

I believe I am making legitimate points and I am not saying that she has not done anything for women at all. Her speech in Beijing was powerful and I think it did have an impact. I also think she has been strong on Planned Parenthood. I am not particularly impressed with the rest. I suppose the fact that I used the phrase "of the world" led some PPs to claim that I offered nothing concrete on Sanders but that is not the case. He has been an advocate of poor and disadvantaged women for his entire career but he has not had the opportunity to work on a world stage as Clinton has. And in that regard, I see many missed opportunities on HRC's part.

"I don't know... For me, between her championing of welfare reform which had dire effects on poor women and children; and her willingness to receive money for her family foundation from countries which severely oppress women such as: Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, Clinton does not appear to be a great champion of women's rights. I was just reading this article about her time spent as Secretary of State and all of her missed opportunities to help women around the world. This does not look like a great record on women's issues to me. Sanders has a very solid voting record and, once again, I can't point to one moment in his entire career when he missed an opportunity to advocate for women. Granted he did not have the world opportunities of a Secretary of State."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp...really-do-for-oppressed-women/

"I don't know where you are getting your "facts" about welfare reform but HRC fervently campaigned for her husband's welfare reform policy and even referred to it as "a success" as late as 2008. You don't get to change the facts just because you don't like them. "

"She did give a nice speech in Beijing but that was 20 years ago and all I can see are her missed opportunities since then. She speaks out of both sides of her mouth. If she can speak out against the mistreatment of women by the Taliban, why won't she speak out against the mistreatment of women by U.S. supported regimes as well? She is an advocate for women and children when it suits her just like everything else she does. She speaks out of both sides of her mouth."

"I have not trashed her entire record. I have said she has been consistent on Planned Parenthood and she made a very nice speech in Beijing. As far as the rest of her feminist credentials, I am not impressed because of the major contradictions. I am not hurting any other candidate by saying that there are major issues with Clinton. I am not a Bernie bro or whatever you want to call me. I do like him a lot but I don't think he is perfect. I am still free to say that Clinton is not a feminist. "

"The title of the thread is "Sanders is the real feminist in this race." I stand by that statement. I believe that Clinton is a feminist only when it suits her politically. You are free to disagree, of course, and the issue is partially one of semantics. How do you define "feminist?" I believe that a "feminist" politician has a responsibility to defend and support poor women and other disadvantaged women of the world. It is not just about when it is politically convenient."[/quote]

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