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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I understand that gun control is an important topic but do you think you could start your own thread on this? You have posted tons of information and I, the OP, have agreed that stricter gun regulations would be a positive move for women and men. It has been covered.[/quote]

No, I think Sanders' support for the gun industry and his opposition to many gun safety measures are highly relevant to this thread.

Your whole "feminist" argument against Clinton is a thinly stretched string of circumstances: Hillary was married to a man who signed legislation from Congress, which then led to certain economic effects that some people, 20 years later, have said had some negative impacts on women in various locations.  With Sanders, we see his actual gun votes in Congress leading to connections to women dying in Vermont, and all over the United States.  If your "evidence" is relevant to looking at Clinton, then the gun evidence is certainly relevant to looking at Sanders.

In fact, the thread's title says it's about Bernie Sanders, not Hillary Clinton.  So I think your posts about Hillary are the ones that don't belong.  My posts about Sanders' poor gun record of choosing the NRA over women are much more on-topic.

Also, did anyone mention that Hillary Clinton is endorsed by the following notable women:

Lilly Ledbetter
Gloria Steinem
current and former presidents of NOW 
current president of NARAL
current president of Planned Parenthood

If Bernie Sanders is the "real feminist" in this race, why aren't these other feminists supporting him?[/quote]

I have been very disappointed in Gloria Steinem, regarding this race. She actually said that young women were supporting Sanders because that is "where the boys are." I was stunned to see a comment like that from a feminist.

You are entitled to your opinion that gun control is a make or break issue for a candidate. I just think there are some other issues which need to be addressed first and Sanders is a supporter of background checks and other gun regulations. The NRA gave him a D minus rating...

I think that you yourself are greatly minimizing Clinton's contribution and influence as first lady if you can state that she was "married to a man who..." Hillary Clinton worked hard for that policy and you should at least give her credit for her hard work. [/quote]

Okay. So you dismissed Steinem.  How about the others?  You know better than them too?[/quote]

That is a weird argument. I am supposed to blindly follow the opinions of the presidents of NOW, NARAL, and PP? Do you know that there are are far more influential feminist thinkers out there? Those are big organizations but they do not dictate the opinions of feminists everywhere. They are voices in the discussion certainly but there are many that I would look to before I would look to them. [/quote]

Never said anything about "blindly following". You addressed Steinem by dismissing her credibility.  You didn't address the others.  Now you've dismissed them as well.  I think all of them have tremendous credibility and your need to dismiss them to cling to your "Hillary's not a feminist" stance makes your stance quite laughable. [/quote]

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