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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]OMG People, why so much nastiness towards that Muslim poster and Islam in general? Is your life so sad that you resort to trolling and making up stories online to feel better about yourself? I have "recused" myself from this discussion once I realized no true honest conversation could be had since you refuse any evidence given about what Muslims believe but choose to misquote verses as you wish, scholars that nobody ever heard of and talk about wahabism ( less than 5% of muslims are wahabis btw) as if 1.6 billion Muslims believed in the things you are saying! You are clearly not interesting in "learning" about Islam or having an intelligent discussion about it. I am just writing back to clear some of the things you keep repeating ( btw my silence shouldn't imply consent, I usually stop responding when I see no need to, I have no interest in sterile discussion). Also to the opposite of what you believe I could care less what God you pray to at the end of every day, really I have other things to worry about than trying to convert random anonymous'es on public forums.  It is a bit pretentious that you think that Muslims are pissed when they try to convince you about Islam and you deny Islam's claims. Seriously? hum, no, Muslims are pissed when you lie about Islam, misquote its verses and portray whatever fallacies created by your own brain as Islam. Self-imposed ignorance is markedly offensive to others. Muslims won't be judged on whether or not you agree with them, accept Islam or nod when they tell you about their religion, you will be alone in your grave as they will be, so get off of your high horses thinking our happiness is dependent on whether you accept our belief or not!

Ignorance won't take you anywhere. I have said it before and I will say it again, the greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. You live under the "Illusion" that you have some knowledge of Islam, but clearly you have not, and that is a fact, not an opinion. The majority of these verses you cite are either taken out of context, or misunderstood due to lack of basic knowledge.  Quoting Quranic verses without citing the proper context, lying about what's in the Quran ( yes lies, there is nothing in the Quran that states that the punishment for apostasy is death and you have repeated this over and over, this is just one thing that comes to mind), you rely  on some cherry-picked crackpot interpretation of  verses, whether you've lived with Muslims, befriended Muslims clearly has not taught you anything about Islam because you are as clueless about the religion as someone who's never even heard about the Quran, really my elementary school child has a better understanding of Islam than you do. Whether you like it or not, every verse in the Quran has to be read within the context under which it was revealed, you can't just randomly cite verses of the Quran while completely ignoring the context, that makes you look extremely ignorant.

Every book is to be dealt with on the basis of what is claims and how it is to be understood. The Qur'an is no exception to this. [b] In principle, you can't pluck a phrase or sentence out of an essay and use it in isolation.Any discussion on Qur’anic verses  would be meaningless, without a study of the surrounding context.[/b] Antagonists of Islam are guilty of such misreading and distortion of Quranic meanings because they ignore the context of the verses, either through sheer negligence or deliberate suppression. By context i mean the collective meaning derived from a group of verses. Instead of taking one verse and citing it out of context, the correct procedure is to look at the verses before and after in order to acquire a proper meaning of what The Quran is saying. Secondly, to understand certain intricate verses, the reader needs to resort to official and authentic commentaries of The Quran.  I mean, honestly, there are muslims dedicating their lives to studying the interpretations of the Quran, the least you could do is listen to the [b]consensus[/b]  instead of your own amateur attempts. Quoting any text out of context is obviously dishonest, so why do you do it? The reason is that it works! When someone has an agenda and they know that if they expose it, it will not be popular, they must find alternative ways. One such way is to use for evidence, backing their argument, text taken out of context and quoted by respectable sources. This impresses the gullible, thus helping the people making those arguments pursue their agendas. It is no wonder that Islamophobes often quote translations of verses of the  Quran stripped from their context, so that their listeners or readers would get the wrong impression about what the verse it about and would not be interested in Islam. Few people actually bother to check out the Quran to verify what they heard or read.

Whether you like it or not more than half of new converts to Islam are women. Why do so many women accept Islam? Didn’t they read the Quran and see that top ten list of oppression? Why did the Quran not repulse these women, and on the contrary, attracted them? why supposedly ‘emancipated’ Western women are turning towards a religion that has always been associated with the oppression of women? Are they just dumb sheep following blindly? New Muslim converts to the opposite, attribute the use of intelligent reasoning, reflection and critical thinking when explaining their journey to Islam. Such people cut through the hysteria created by some in the media to view Islam from a critical lens and following the truth thus comes naturally to them as part of this process. How else can one explain the increase in conversions with the increase of anti-Islam rhetoric?

The very fact that you are telling people to not learn Islam from Muslims but from non muslim sources shows again your ignorance. You can not learn the true  essence of Islam from them any more than you can lean about Christianity from agnostics  or neuroscience from a lawyer. The tragedy is not that people like you exist and are given a voice, it’s that there are many who listen and believe this nonsense. That’s why da`wa (explaining Islam) is so important. Oh btw, you also confused da'wa (explaining Islam,sharing the message) with converting. Even in the Qur'an it has been stated repeatedly that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is merely a messenger, and that his duty is merely to convey the message of Islam, he can not guide them/convert them, only Allah can guide people. So yeh, we are not asked to convert anyone, get your facts straight!

Oh and from a Christian source since you indicated all sources of Islam growth were "Muslim".....

[quote] 2014 saw the publication of the 30th annual Annual Status of Global Mission in the International Bulletin of Missionary ReseaIn this, the latest edition, the researchers estimate Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world: 1.81% per year vs. 1.53% for the 20 million Sikhs and 1.29% for Christianity.[/quote] Source: http://beyond.org/islam-fastest-growing-religion-world/

But you know, when people have to hate something, that’s the beginning of the problem. To some,Islam is nothing but a code of rules and regulations.But,to those who understand,it is a perfect vision of life and whether you believe in it or not is irrelevant in our love of Islam, to you your religion, to me my religion! Peace![/quote]

Some links for them. It's raining miracles for them today.

1) Islamic scholar Hamza Yusuf on whether Islam wants to control world via Sharia laws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cmDJHGc2_c

2) Islamic scholar Hamza Yusuf on how Islam handles apostasy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naEj915VU20

3) Islamic scholar Dr. Jamal Badawi on "Commonly Misunderstood Quranic Texts" 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4D9aB21DwM

4) Islamic scholar Dr. Jamal Badawi on "Islamic Etiquette of War"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiSu8dK2GMA

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