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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’d set up a transitional school for English language learners. You test in/out and return to your neighborhood school once fluency is achieved.

Eliminate AAP centers. Your base school will suffice. [/quote]

Considering the number of ESL students in the county, that school would need to support 15-20% of the county’s students.[/quote]

Setting up a separate school and running transportation sounds like a good idea but not a way to reduce expenses.[/quote]

This. It will never happen for the same reason the district is trying to do away with standalone special ed programs and sheltered classes at the secondary level. Some of the students will never exit either program through no fault of anyone. The programs are expensive to staff and it’s much cheaper to push everyone into the same classroom and then blame teachers for not meeting the needs of all learners.[/quote]

Even if FCPS wanted to do this, it will never happen due to federal law.

The system is created to quickly  assimilate small numbers of recent, mostly educated non English speaking immigrants to US language and customs.

It is not designed to support the current situation created over the past 4 years of vast numbers of non educated, often illiterate, students from culturally dissimilar areas (some of the high immigrant schools have dozens of languages spoken, often from places that are not modern societies with modern views on women and culture, for example), in a school system that now despises assimilation or promoting an "American" culture.

The federal laws on placing ESOL students in mainstream classrooms worked under limited immigration and minimal illegal migration, when the schools used to value assimilation to US language and culture.

The laws cause massive failure under the current migration and immigration patterns, in a part of the country that teaches tgat assimilation is a bad thing to be avoided, and that America is a failed idea.

If you want to make the laws match what is needed in the schools now, you need to start with Connolly,  Kaine and Warner, none of whom will support what you want and what the schools need, because what you propose is too trumpy for their political belief system.  You must fix it at a federal level.  FCPS hands are tied.[/quote]

I don't think there is any federal requirement that ESOL students must be in mainstream buildings/classrooms, just that ESOL must be provided and history, science etc. classes as well.

Maybe Virginia's Ed department by policy requires esol students to be with proficient English speakers.

As much as the die-hard so-called progressives would rail against dedicated ESOL centres, I think we all know that the proficient English speakers among them who are parents wouldn't be so likely to avoid the schools that currently have many ESOL students.  I bet that in some areas, FCPS might even get students who would otherwise be going private.[/quote]

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