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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.[/quote]

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck  to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.[/quote]
For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education. [/quote]

But they do, sort of.  For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough.  Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another.  The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.[/quote]

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

[b]Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard.[/b] But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is  now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized. [/quote]

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican!  A Republican destroying education!  You must be joking.[/quote]

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.[/quote]

Education is implemented at the local level, not the national level. If you have a problem with stats on HS grads in your school district, take it up with your school board. [/quote]

So why do we need a department of education if education is local?[/quote]

At this point we need to pin some factoids for dimwitted MAGA so that we don't have to repeat ourselves all day long.

Because the DoE administers federal funding for public schools and federal student aid programs, among other things. They do not control curricula. [/quote]

Do they choose to give schools funding for cirricula they deem “best practice” and refuse to fund curricula that they deem not educationally appropriate, based on DOE research/determination?[/quote]

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