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Anonymous wrote:He is going to make sure we have 2 genders

First they came for the transgender people.

Then they came for the gays.

Then they came for single mothers…

We know where this is headed. It’s all mapped out in Project 2025.

Will gladly look forward to the day without all these pronoun signatures

Because signatures with pronouns are definitely the biggest issue we face.

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Anonymous wrote:My main takeaway from this election is our citizens have no idea how our government functions it’s any level.

This thread is solid evidence of that.

Even though it's an innocent typo, the fact that the OP misspelled "Washington" in the thread title feels soooooo on the nose here.

The Department of Education spends about $200 million a year on research intended to improve educational practice. No evidence exists that these expenditures have done any significant good.

I’d say the evidence suggests that they make things worse. Honestly, if you put me in charge I could do better with one sentence: “Copy what Massachusetts is doing to the best of your ability”.

Instead we get educational consultants with EDs with no actual idea how to teach coming up with new ideas every couple of years.

Teachers union and a wealthy population

I'm confused about how they are going to eliminate the DOE, but also implement the other part of Project 2025, which is to eliminate funding to schools that won't go along with their anti-DEI, anti-CRT, pro-Bible beliefs. If there is no DOE, how are they going to know which schools are following their rules and which aren't, and what funding is there going to be to even eliminate?

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Anonymous wrote:My main takeaway from this election is our citizens have no idea how our government functions it’s any level.

This thread is solid evidence of that.

Even though it's an innocent typo, the fact that the OP misspelled "Washington" in the thread title feels soooooo on the nose here.

The Department of Education spends about $200 million a year on research intended to improve educational practice. No evidence exists that these expenditures have done any significant good.

I’d say the evidence suggests that they make things worse. Honestly, if you put me in charge I could do better with one sentence: “Copy what Massachusetts is doing to the best of your ability”.

Instead we get educational consultants with EDs with no actual idea how to teach coming up with new ideas every couple of years.

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So blue states aren't going to be subsidizing education in poor red states anymore? Okay. I guess that's what's happening.

LOL...they are so uneducated and about to get even dumber.

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Anonymous wrote:Now, on to the Department of Labor.

No, PBS & NPR, Endowments for arts & humanities 🙏🏼

I listen to and enjoy NPR as much as anyone else during my hour+ long rides in the morning and evening, but they are too partisan. (I also get my news from many other sources as well, many non-msm.) But have you read the titles of their news articles online? And the topics they cover on the air are decidedly very liberal and partisan, just not as shrill as the voices on msnbc and cnn. And their coverage of the Harris/Trump campaign was full of lies and rhetoric. It would be nice if they were a little more balanced in programming before anyone says it should be saved. While it would suck to not be able to listen to some of the on-air talent, I can just listen to something else on xm radio or a podcast.

Yeah, no shortage of media outlets these days. NPR/PBS are like the government running a chain of fast food restaurants so people have a place to get a quick lunch.

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Anonymous wrote:Now, on to the Department of Labor.

No, PBS & NPR, Endowments for arts & humanities 🙏🏼

I listen to and enjoy NPR as much as anyone else during my hour+ long rides in the morning and evening, but they are too partisan. (I also get my news from many other sources as well, many non-msm.) But have you read the titles of their news articles online? And the topics they cover on the air are decidedly very liberal and partisan, just not as shrill as the voices on msnbc and cnn. And their coverage of the Harris/Trump campaign was full of lies and rhetoric. It would be nice if they were a little more balanced in programming before anyone says it should be saved. While it would suck to not be able to listen to some of the on-air talent, I can just listen to something else on xm radio or a podcast.

Anonymous wrote:My main takeaway from this election is our citizens have no idea how our government functions it’s any level.

This thread is solid evidence of that.

The Department of Education only has two important functions and they are both for higher education: student loans/financial aid and Title IX.

Under Biden they screwed up both.

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Anonymous wrote:He is going to make sure we have 2 genders

First they came for the transgender people.

Then they came for the gays.

Then they came for single mothers…

We know where this is headed. It’s all mapped out in Project 2025.

Will gladly look forward to the day without all these pronoun signatures

Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.

We’re already there.

Anonymous wrote:He is going to make sure we have 2 genders

Big Pharma needs to be fined huge amounts (fk the shareholders) and execs need to go to jail. FDA needs to be gutted as well because they rubber stamped and fast tracked so many profitable drugs so that Big Pharma can focus on research of opioids and cosmetic drugs over life saving ones.

Anonymous wrote:Now, on to the Department of Labor.

No, PBS & NPR, Endowments for arts & humanities 🙏🏼

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So blue states aren't going to be subsidizing education in poor red states anymore? Okay. I guess that's what's happening.

The red state people will become dumber and more likely to keep voting maga.

Not trolling here but generally curious why so many college kids (not just conservative) are heading to SEC colleges in droves. UTenn, UK, Auburn, Alabama, SC all so popular at our MD high school now. Will these kids migrate to red states after graduation? Are these colleges any good? How are they funded if these states don't prioritize education funding?

The schools are less selective/easier to get in.

They are actually getting much more selective due to the demand. Again, not defending them just generally curious why they have become so popular?

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.

Education is implemented at the local level, not the national level. If you have a problem with stats on HS grads in your school district, take it up with your school board.

So why do we need a department of education if education is local?

At this point we need to pin some factoids for dimwitted MAGA so that we don't have to repeat ourselves all day long.

Because the DoE administers federal funding for public schools and federal student aid programs, among other things. They do not control curricula.

Do they choose to give schools funding for cirricula they deem “best practice” and refuse to fund curricula that they deem not educationally appropriate, based on DOE research/determination?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.[/quote]

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.[/quote]
For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education. [/quote]

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.[/quote]

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

[b]Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard.[/b] But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized. [/quote]

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.[/quote]

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.[/quote]

Education is implemented at the local level, not the national level. If you have a problem with stats on HS grads in your school district, take it up with your school board. [/quote]

So why do we need a department of education if education is local?[/quote]

At this point we need to pin some factoids for dimwitted MAGA so that we don't have to repeat ourselves all day long.

Because the DoE administers federal funding for public schools and federal student aid programs, among other things. They do not control curricula. [/quote]

Do they choose to give schools funding for cirricula they deem “best practice” and refuse to fund curricula that they deem not educationally appropriate, based on DOE research/determination?