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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I didn't even attend Ivies (former UVA grad) and I am making 275K/yr working for the Federal government as a SME in Cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).  I am in my 30's and most of my former classmates are making a lot more in the private sector.[/quote]

Why do all these 30 year olds keep posting? You had a rich repository of information about COL and career paths on the internet to guide you. [/quote]

And it’s been pointed out for the older Ivy graduates you always had excellent career centers and recruiting opportunities. [/quote]

[b]None of which ever discussed salaries, which is the point of OP. [/b]Career center was all about passion and interest and how to help the world. Recruitment might have alluded to starting salary and “growth” but never talked about hard numbers unless maybe at the final offer stage. [/quote]

If you could not figure this out on your own, you did not and still don’t have the skills to navigate the big jobs with the big salaries. High paying jobs are extremely competitive, no one will tell you how to get them.[/quote]

Figure out salaries on your own? Talking about salaries was very gauche in the 90s — so basically if you weren’t already in the inner circle of UMC professionals you were screwed either way?[/quote]

Not to be pedantic but c’mon, you don’t need the actual salary to have a good sense of ballpark for IBanking, Medicine, Law, Accounting, Teaching etc etc. That info was easily available in books and newspaper and magazine articles if you cared to do the research.

OP’s issue is not that he did not negotiate well, he missed the ball completely by picking a non lucrative path. The people who need to be handheld like this cannot rise up the ranks to make the big bucks.[/quote]

Again, for the Nth time: You don’t know what you don’t know.  When I went to college, the professionals I knew either worked in schools and universities, or were doctors. That’s pretty much it.  So explain to me  — pedantically— at what point the wealthy, almost exclusively white - people doing things like investment banking were going to tell me about such careers so I could seek out more information?  FWIW, the doctors, lawyers, and accountants that I was dimly aware of were not wealthy. 
What people like you don’t get is that you need to know that something exists to look for it, and that’s before you even get to understanding whether or not something is even possible for you.  I’ve said this before, but if you grew up with the internet, if you grew up white and financially comfortable and surrounded by people doing the kinds of things that lead to and support wealth you may not be able to understand realities that don’t include those things.

Happy Thanksgiving!
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I am the immigrant poster who wrote upthread. I figured this stuff out, as a teen, within two years of landing in this country.  Sure there were lots of things I did not know, all the cultural nuances and subtext of the UMC and upper classes,  how to negotiate, how to build and leverage a network. You learn along the way if you pay attention. But where the money was? I learned that quickly and there were plenty resources. Maybe it was because I was an immigrant and could see right through the cultural propaganda you were fed in HS and College. [/quote]

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