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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP here. My point on this thread all along is not that elite schools don't matter, but they are not be all and end all, that other schools can provide a stepping stone from where they can get to same place as those who go to elite schools. Sometimes that road is harder, it may take going for an advanced degree, and/or additional self learning.  One of my heroes in computing, Jim Gosling who created Java programming language, went to Univ of Calgary for this BS, ranked #200+ in world and 9th in Canada, then went on to do MS/PhD at CMU. According to some posters on this thread, Jim Gosling couldn't get into an elite school for his BS, so he had no talent and were doomed to work at the bottom of the pile. There are a number of reasons why some kids attend the schools they end up at, not all of them are related to their individual ability. This forum may be is an echo chamber of folks who are prestige hunters, that doesn't care for these nuances. I am out of this thread in the event no one really is interested in these points. You can all continue prestige hunting. [/quote]

I am not sure what your point is. James Gosling got his PhD in CS from CMU. He is a graduate of an elite CS program.[/quote]

Point is he started his BS at a lesser known university, according to some posters here it's a sign of student not being capable if they can't get into UVA, by the same logic Gosling couldn't get into Toronto the top school in Canada, instead he got into much lower ranked Calgary. If he was capable why couldn't he get into Toronto or any other ranked school above Calgary. I know this is a ridiculous argument, that's my point. Undergrad admissions are sometimes hard to get into elite schools, and not always indicative of what the student may do in future, they may end up going to MIT for PhD and invent the next big thing. [/quote]

Where are the posters claiming you can't excel coming from a non-MIT/CMU level undergrad in CS?  I don't see any.  [/quote]

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