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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/wife-desperate-for-husbands-coronavirus-results/2241519/

What does it mean be can’t be treated for the virus until they know the results? I obviously feel awful for this family and totally understand the desire for a test result. But will that really change the course of treatment?[/quote]

Probably not, since there is not treatment. But it does concern me that the largest hospital nearest me (where we would go should things become critical), doesn’t seem to have the capability to get rapid test results and/or to communicate to the family in a reassuring way that they are treating the patient as if he has it and are treating him aggressively, as they would (I hope) any younger person in critical condition with pneumonia.

I hate this administration. They have f***ed this up beyond belief. [/quote]

It's easy to snap out at current politicians when feeling frustrated and angry[b]. But I don't think any other politician would have had a different impact.[/b] Look at Europe. They all also waited before making major actions. [/quote]

Are you for real? [/quote]

The PP you are responding to clearly has been following international news on this while you have not. The only countries that have distinguished themselves in handling this are the several Asian nations that went through a very tough challenge with SARS, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and South Korea and pulled out their playbooks to avoid a repeat.

There is NO European country that has handled this well, despite the praise one often sees here for their health systems.  Italy was clearly caught totally unaware but citizens say there were strong political factors behind the delay.  Let us look at countries that had ample warning that failed to take this seriously.

Italy has 350 cases per million; in comparison the US has 9.3.  I was a huge early critic of lack of testing (because I was following the Asian situation) and posted here about it but almost no one cared.  Let us say with more testing--on a par with some other European countries testing, bearing in mind that most have been only slightly less restrictive and some more restrictive than the US--we would have maybe three to four times as many or 30 to 40.

What's in between? Switzerland--256--they just closed schools Friday, a day after they closed some (not all) of their crossings with Italy and residents say testing is very restricted; Norway--222--again very slow to act although being one of the richest countries in Europe; Spain--166--just last week started closing down schools and pubic places; Denmark--149--just closed its borders Friday; Sweden--101; Austria--89; Belgium--76--just closed schools and public places; France--69--last weekend Macron and his wife went to the theater to encourage the French to continue going out despite the virus, but put in Spain type closures this weekend; Netherlands--66--testing stingier than the US; Germany--65--only now beginning to think of restrictions and testing is not widespread--unlike Spain and Italy they do not test the untested dead.

On the old thread that has been locked because it became too large, people were posting all about the global situation and politics (not policy) comments were reported and deleted.  On this new thread people have lost track of the global situation as personal concerns (stockpiling, I am coughing should I get tested?) and political comments have come to dominate.  As a result, those who just started following this when it seemed to come close to home are unable to understand the US situation in the international context.[/quote]

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