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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No way Iran agrees to a ceasefire. Israel is now killing so many people in Lebanon so regularly that the media has lost interest. Much like it did in Gaza.[/quote]

This is heartbreaking to me.  Like with Gaza I am astounded we are sitting back and letting this happen.

And this time it’s so much worse - everyone is scared to protest based on what happened to protesters last time (remember the Tufts student swept up off the street by unidentified men while she was in the phone with her mom - all for writing an opt ed protesting what Israel was doing in Gaza!).  We officially are living under a repressive regime.   [/quote]

You know who's actually scared to protest?  Iranian citizens.  Can't blame them considering the Iranian regime murdered thousands of them the last time they protested.  [/quote]

[b]Maybe they’re scared to protest because they don’t want the us and Israel to install a shill candidate.[/b] They saw the disaster  our failed regime changes caused in Iraq, Syria, libya. Do you think these places are better off post Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad? Absolutely not. Anyone well traveled will tell you Baghdad, Damascus, tripoli were excellent worldly cities pre war [/quote]

Yes, I'm sure that must it.  Not being utterly terrified that their insane and authoritarian mullahs will have them mowed down if they dare to protest.   :roll: [/quote]

Hey! Don’t throw stones in glass houses. We cannot protest here anymore either. We get SHOT! [/quote]

How many Iranian protesters have been shot and how many American protesters have been shot?[/quote]

Is there some acceptable number of protestors being shot or maimed or arrested or fired or jailed that makes you feel like the Trump administration is better than the Iranian leadership?

What’s the ratio?[/quote]

DP.  Here's a better question:  tell us exactly why you are so defensive of the Iranian regime and why you feel they're more "moral" (can't believe I just typed that) than the U.S.  Don't forget to take into account their brutal jailing and executions of political prisoners, women, homosexuals, etc. We'll wait while you build your insane defense of a terrorist state.[/quote]

DP. Why don’t you tell us why you are so defensive of Israel. It is a foreign country that does terrible inhuman things. Everything you listed- brutal jailing and executions of political prisoners, women, homosexuals, etc. Israel does every day for over 70 years.

We'll wait while you build your insane defense of a terrorist state

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DP. This is a fake argument. Why do you think calling one state out in a conversation means they support the opponent? There aren’t any good guys here. [/quote]

Israel is by any definition a terrorist state. If the US is attacking Iran because you say Iran is a terrorist state that means Israel must be attacked because it is far worst vs Iran in every matrix.

Also the pp was not having a conversation. Just posting nonsense about Iran being a terrorist state. Like it or not Iran has a right to self defense. Iran has not been the aggressor in 47 years unlike Israel.

Though it does not matter. The US will be out of the ME and Europe within a year or two. Europe without American in NATO will sanction Israel. This will crippling Israel. China and Iran will be the main player in the ME. The gulf states are already in discussions with the Chinese. China unlike the US does not give a rat’s ass about Israel.

Israel is in an untenable position going forward. From now on any Israeli attacks against Iran or its allies will result in the shutdown of the strait and/or strikes against Israel. The world is not going to stand by and let Israel wreck the world’s economy. Israel will have to at minimum rebuild Gaza, remove all West Bank settlements and Jordan will be turned in to a Palestinian state that annexes the West Bank.

Israel really f’ed up this time.
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