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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't think you're taking into account how you'll feel after the fourth sleepless night in a row while working full time, and then coming home to two small children having temper tantrums and a messy house. THAT will be the moment when you want to first start cooking dinner? Sorry, OP, but you'll want to order take-out on those nights. [/quote]

I agree, and there are so many more scenarios. We live off of my income (46K) and it's tough. I can't really even buy my kids anything for their birthday or Christmas. Then, it's mostly material stuff but when your kid is crying for a toy, it breaks your heart. My wife can't work because her degree is worthless and she couldn't get a job that would pay even pay for childcare. Then you have to think about who's going to pick up the kids from school. There are not a lot of low end jobs that are "flexible". We do okay, even with having to buy diapers still for my Autistic kid and toddler. It's rough, and I have to do all my own automotive work and etc. It's been good for my mind to learn new things, but it's exhausting. When the kids do finally get in school, it'll be another two years before my wife can get out of school with a new degree, something in the medical field or related.

I think you can moderately tack on $300 - $400 dollars a month just in kids stuff, food, and etc. If you don't breast feed, that's formula too. It sucks less now.

As for a tax return, yes is great. However, that all goes to the credit cards you used during the year to buy tires, pay medical bills since Obama care is a joke, and etc. So, you back to square one .. no wait for it .. your in the hole.

No bills, I think we'd be okay or in fact doing well. I also agree with the notion that we shouldn't as a middle or lower middle class try to travel too much or spend too much. It's not in our class to do so, unfortunately. Anyway, it's nice to see some folks who are in the same boat.[/quote]

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