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Will see what effect today’s ruling has. How many voters want a “king” in office??[/quote]

Biden’s debate performance is the worst debate performance in US history. The american public has never witnessed a president be so confused, frail, and incoherent, in US history.

Democrats are coping and saying it’s just one night, he had a cold, he’s old, he can’t speak well anymore but his heart is in the right place, etc. But it’s just major cope. Nothing will bring Biden back after appearing in front of the world looking and sounding like he did.

I could be wrong, but I see democrats clinging onto Joe and keeping hope alive until election day. Once he loses, everyone posting here will attack Joe like they did RBG. Hindsight is 20/20, and it is going to depress democrats to look back and realize they spent months lying to themselves day and day and pretending Joe still had a chance. He doesn’t. It’s over. [/quote]

I agree. I would certainly never vote for Trump. And if I lived in a swing state I would vote Biden if he is indeed the candidate. I am part of the solid blue base. HOWEVER, I am not the vote that counts. If you think that Biden's debate performance did not cost him vote from those who matter (swing/new/independent voters in swing states) you are deluding yourself. This is a serious problem and it is very troubling that Dems do not see it as such. In polls that I have seen Harris has the same approval and % of vote in a general election against Trump and this is without any campaigning other than messaging from Biden's camp that she can't win. The Democrats will lose the election unless they switch candidates. It's simple. It's clear. [/quote]
Yeah, Biden is old. But I wonder why no one ever asks Trump, with all his baggage, to drop out first. If Trump goes, so does Biden. That would be an equal footing and an equal solve.

And I’d still rather be in the position Democrats are in rather than that of the GOP. I don’t love how old my candidate is, but that’s pretty much my only quibble with him vs Trump, who is [i]all[/i] downside.[/quote]

The problem is that Democrats should win overwhelmingly. Trump isn't popular among more independent voters. And so many Republican candidates are completely unhinged. It should be an easy election for Democrats everywhere.

But Democrats chose a very old, rapidly declining, unpopular President. Biden quite likely has dementia and Parkinson's and who knows what else. He's obviously not finishing a second term, when he would be 86 (!!!) in the unlikely event he is even alive in 2028. It is baffling why Democrats chose such a weak and feeble candidate when Trump presents such a clear and present danger to the country. Biden is already close to the line of being incapacitated. There is no chance he is functional a year from now.

And this is what Democrats chose. Voters are either going to stay home - which hurts everyone down ballot - or they are going to punish Democrats for being so unserious. Trump was a gift to Democrats everywhere. And they are wrecking all of their opportunities by pushing a weak geriatric simply because that's what the Establishment wants. Democrats have a habit of treating the Presidency as some kind of royal succession. The king isn't dead yet, ergo everyone has to fall in line. And every American recoils from that. Trump - weirdly - is the people's middle finger to the utter arrogance of Democrats. And he will win.  [/quote]

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