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Anonymous wrote:That's for sure. Especially once, if elected, people see that the policies of the current Republican party (maga/far right) won't do anything to help this country, and will just anger people. The backlash in the future will be severe.

Wait until Biden is replaced by a normal candidate and suddenly it becomes apparent how Trump has zero chance of winning against a legitimate opponent. The MAGA fools will drop Trump like the pile of wet garbage he is.

No, I don’t think so. It is a cult; there is no making people see how bad Donald Trump is because the whole GOP ecosystem is dedicated to elevating Trump. There is no room for light there.

We should be, culturally, asking Trump to drop out first. When he goes, Biden drops, too.

Trump is clearly the most unfit candidate. We keep hearing about Joe Biden’s issues, but Trump is so much worse. People are just used to his insane rambling as we have been dealing with it for 9 years!

They are but I just can’t get over how the media’s message is “OH EM GEE BIDEN SO BAD.” That’s it. Nothing about Trump.

I was at a small town’s parade this past weekend in Minnesota. It wasn’t the best timed parades with several minutes of blank road before the next group or band came by, so there was a decent amount of chatter happening. And then the GOP group came by. Now I was just at one location in the parade, obviously, but the crowd went silent. The kind of quiet freeze that happens when someone says or does something so inappropriate that the reaction is just ice (or that’s the way it goes in the Midwest; we’re not super confrontational people). They shouted out to one fellow Republican who was on the side and that was it. No one returned their waves or smiles.

A tiny anecdote, but a real one, and sure not a good sign in an area of the state that’s usually pretty red.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats have been overconfident since 2008. They like to act like progressivism is a force of nature that can't be stopped, only temporarily slowed.

They don't realize that progressivism = decadence and is a sign of a collapsing empire. If a civilization were the stock market, the point at which is becomes the most progressive is a massive sell signal.

Democrats are NOT progressive. Some Dems are, but in general, Democrats are centrists at most, center-right at best.

Nader, Nader, Sanders/Stein. The most progressive one is the one who can actually get elected. So the choice is continued democracy and progress with Biden (rate of progress TBD with how much of a majority we get) or autocracy with Trump. That’s your choice. Pick forward or backward.

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Will see what effect today’s ruling has. How many voters want a “king” in office??

Biden’s debate performance is the worst debate performance in US history. The american public has never witnessed a president be so confused, frail, and incoherent, in US history.

Democrats are coping and saying it’s just one night, he had a cold, he’s old, he can’t speak well anymore but his heart is in the right place, etc. But it’s just major cope. Nothing will bring Biden back after appearing in front of the world looking and sounding like he did.

I could be wrong, but I see democrats clinging onto Joe and keeping hope alive until election day. Once he loses, everyone posting here will attack Joe like they did RBG. Hindsight is 20/20, and it is going to depress democrats to look back and realize they spent months lying to themselves day and day and pretending Joe still had a chance. He doesn’t. It’s over.

I agree. I would certainly never vote for Trump. And if I lived in a swing state I would vote Biden if he is indeed the candidate. I am part of the solid blue base. HOWEVER, I am not the vote that counts. If you think that Biden's debate performance did not cost him vote from those who matter (swing/new/independent voters in swing states) you are deluding yourself. This is a serious problem and it is very troubling that Dems do not see it as such. In polls that I have seen Harris has the same approval and % of vote in a general election against Trump and this is without any campaigning other than messaging from Biden's camp that she can't win. The Democrats will lose the election unless they switch candidates. It's simple. It's clear.

Yeah, Biden is old. But I wonder why no one ever asks Trump, with all his baggage, to drop out first. If Trump goes, so does Biden. That would be an equal footing and an equal solve.

And I’d still rather be in the position Democrats are in rather than that of the GOP. I don’t love how old my candidate is, but that’s pretty much my only quibble with him vs Trump, who is all downside.

Because Trump has always been this way and his base inexplicably loves him and will vote for him.

They couldn’t get him over the hump in 2020. He won’t have earned any new voters after Roe.

Tell Trump to drop out. That should be the primary cultural message now. Of course no one wants to admit how far gone the whole GOP is, how far they’ve drifted from sanity.

Exactly. He needs the women vote. How is that going to happen?

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Anonymous wrote:That's for sure. Especially once, if elected, people see that the policies of the current Republican party (maga/far right) won't do anything to help this country, and will just anger people. The backlash in the future will be severe.

Wait until Biden is replaced by a normal candidate and suddenly it becomes apparent how Trump has zero chance of winning against a legitimate opponent. The MAGA fools will drop Trump like the pile of wet garbage he is.

No, I don’t think so. It is a cult; there is no making people see how bad Donald Trump is because the whole GOP ecosystem is dedicated to elevating Trump. There is no room for light there.

We should be, culturally, asking Trump to drop out first. When he goes, Biden drops, too.

Trump is clearly the most unfit candidate. We keep hearing about Joe Biden’s issues, but Trump is so much worse. People are just used to his insane rambling as we have been dealing with it for 9 years!

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Will see what effect today’s ruling has. How many voters want a “king” in office??

Biden’s debate performance is the worst debate performance in US history. The american public has never witnessed a president be so confused, frail, and incoherent, in US history.

Democrats are coping and saying it’s just one night, he had a cold, he’s old, he can’t speak well anymore but his heart is in the right place, etc. But it’s just major cope. Nothing will bring Biden back after appearing in front of the world looking and sounding like he did.

I could be wrong, but I see democrats clinging onto Joe and keeping hope alive until election day. Once he loses, everyone posting here will attack Joe like they did RBG. Hindsight is 20/20, and it is going to depress democrats to look back and realize they spent months lying to themselves day and day and pretending Joe still had a chance. He doesn’t. It’s over.

I agree. I would certainly never vote for Trump. And if I lived in a swing state I would vote Biden if he is indeed the candidate. I am part of the solid blue base. HOWEVER, I am not the vote that counts. If you think that Biden's debate performance did not cost him vote from those who matter (swing/new/independent voters in swing states) you are deluding yourself. This is a serious problem and it is very troubling that Dems do not see it as such. In polls that I have seen Harris has the same approval and % of vote in a general election against Trump and this is without any campaigning other than messaging from Biden's camp that she can't win. The Democrats will lose the election unless they switch candidates. It's simple. It's clear.

Yeah, Biden is old. But I wonder why no one ever asks Trump, with all his baggage, to drop out first. If Trump goes, so does Biden. That would be an equal footing and an equal solve.

And I’d still rather be in the position Democrats are in rather than that of the GOP. I don’t love how old my candidate is, but that’s pretty much my only quibble with him vs Trump, who is all downside.

Because Trump has always been this way and his base inexplicably loves him and will vote for him.

They couldn’t get him over the hump in 2020. He won’t have earned any new voters after Roe.

Tell Trump to drop out. That should be the primary cultural message now. Of course no one wants to admit how far gone the whole GOP is, how far they’ve drifted from sanity.

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Anonymous wrote:That's for sure. Especially once, if elected, people see that the policies of the current Republican party (maga/far right) won't do anything to help this country, and will just anger people. The backlash in the future will be severe.

Wait until Biden is replaced by a normal candidate and suddenly it becomes apparent how Trump has zero chance of winning against a legitimate opponent. The MAGA fools will drop Trump like the pile of wet garbage he is.

No, I don’t think so. It is a cult; there is no making people see how bad Donald Trump is because the whole GOP ecosystem is dedicated to elevating Trump. There is no room for light there.

We should be, culturally, asking Trump to drop out first. When he goes, Biden drops, too.

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Will see what effect today’s ruling has. How many voters want a “king” in office??

Biden’s debate performance is the worst debate performance in US history. The american public has never witnessed a president be so confused, frail, and incoherent, in US history.

Democrats are coping and saying it’s just one night, he had a cold, he’s old, he can’t speak well anymore but his heart is in the right place, etc. But it’s just major cope. Nothing will bring Biden back after appearing in front of the world looking and sounding like he did.

I could be wrong, but I see democrats clinging onto Joe and keeping hope alive until election day. Once he loses, everyone posting here will attack Joe like they did RBG. Hindsight is 20/20, and it is going to depress democrats to look back and realize they spent months lying to themselves day and day and pretending Joe still had a chance. He doesn’t. It’s over.

I agree. I would certainly never vote for Trump. And if I lived in a swing state I would vote Biden if he is indeed the candidate. I am part of the solid blue base. HOWEVER, I am not the vote that counts. If you think that Biden's debate performance did not cost him vote from those who matter (swing/new/independent voters in swing states) you are deluding yourself. This is a serious problem and it is very troubling that Dems do not see it as such. In polls that I have seen Harris has the same approval and % of vote in a general election against Trump and this is without any campaigning other than messaging from Biden's camp that she can't win. The Democrats will lose the election unless they switch candidates. It's simple. It's clear.

Yeah, Biden is old. But I wonder why no one ever asks Trump, with all his baggage, to drop out first. If Trump goes, so does Biden. That would be an equal footing and an equal solve.

And I’d still rather be in the position Democrats are in rather than that of the GOP. I don’t love how old my candidate is, but that’s pretty much my only quibble with him vs Trump, who is all downside.

The problem is that Democrats should win overwhelmingly. Trump isn't popular among more independent voters. And so many Republican candidates are completely unhinged. It should be an easy election for Democrats everywhere.

But Democrats chose a very old, rapidly declining, unpopular President. Biden quite likely has dementia and Parkinson's and who knows what else. He's obviously not finishing a second term, when he would be 86 (!!!) in the unlikely event he is even alive in 2028. It is baffling why Democrats chose such a weak and feeble candidate when Trump presents such a clear and present danger to the country. Biden is already close to the line of being incapacitated. There is no chance he is functional a year from now.

And this is what Democrats chose. Voters are either going to stay home - which hurts everyone down ballot - or they are going to punish Democrats for being so unserious. Trump was a gift to Democrats everywhere. And they are wrecking all of their opportunities by pushing a weak geriatric simply because that's what the Establishment wants. Democrats have a habit of treating the Presidency as some kind of royal succession. The king isn't dead yet, ergo everyone has to fall in line. And every American recoils from that. Trump - weirdly - is the people's middle finger to the utter arrogance of Democrats. And he will win.

Anonymous wrote:That's for sure. Especially once, if elected, people see that the policies of the current Republican party (maga/far right) won't do anything to help this country, and will just anger people. The backlash in the future will be severe.

I don’t know if you’ve missed the fact that the GOP is signaling that there won’t be any more elections if they win in November. I mean that’s not a secret.

Anonymous wrote:That's for sure. Especially once, if elected, people see that the policies of the current Republican party (maga/far right) won't do anything to help this country, and will just anger people. The backlash in the future will be severe.

No it won't.we will be forbidden to vote

Anonymous wrote:That's for sure. Especially once, if elected, people see that the policies of the current Republican party (maga/far right) won't do anything to help this country, and will just anger people. The backlash in the future will be severe.

Wait until Biden is replaced by a normal candidate and suddenly it becomes apparent how Trump has zero chance of winning against a legitimate opponent. The MAGA fools will drop Trump like the pile of wet garbage he is.

Anonymous wrote:Democrats have been overconfident since 2008. They like to act like progressivism is a force of nature that can't be stopped, only temporarily slowed.

They don't realize that progressivism = decadence and is a sign of a collapsing empire. If a civilization were the stock market, the point at which is becomes the most progressive is a massive sell signal.

Democrats are NOT progressive. Some Dems are, but in general, Democrats are centrists at most, center-right at best.