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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All these folks can keep being on their moral high whatever, and I'm gonna keep taking my shot. I'll

worrry about gains when the that tome comes. But for now, the food noise is gone, and I'm maintaining the weight loss. But it's still killing me that no one  makes these same arguments about pharmaceuticals for other ailments.

What is the deal?  Why are some of you so concerned about how fat people lose or not lose weight?

I feel glorious when I see number on the scale drop lower and lower and I don't have to $hitz but live my life like normal people. No constant food  cravings, no bad foods, I can eat whatever I want within moderation. No food is bad. I love it.

So all these naysayers, keep talking,  while us folks taking these meds reap the benefits and hopefully great health.[/quote]

It’s pretty funny. They thought they could shame us out of being fat, and now they think they can shame us out of taking the medicine that makes us lose weight. 
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The truth is that they don’t like that we can become thin and be like them without misery. They were okay with weight loss surgery (although they still called it the easy way out). It leaves scars and requires forever sacrifice of a proper functioning stomach. It changes your eating permanently. Those terms were acceptable for them, an adequate punishment for our former obesity. Ozempic and similar are too painless and we don’t deserve to lose weight painlessly.[/b] [/quote]

NP. The bolded is so insightful, and a very accurate summation of what’s going on with some of the angry posters lashing out at Ozempic users in this thread. Really thoughtfully observed. It is also interesting because I suspect a good number of those posters probably take antidepressants or some sort of pharmacological intervention for mood and mental health (or dear God, they really clearly need it).

I’m not obese, but I could not be more delighted that there is a medical treatment for obesity that is reasonably well-understood and seems to have years of data behind it. It’s about time. [/quote]

Oh come on, now.  I am a PP who posted that I am not obese/overweight but I am glad these drugs exist and I am truly happy that people who need to lose weight for their health are able to do it with these new treatments when other efforts have not worked for them.

However, I still think we need to encourage people to eat healthy and move more - it's basic common sense!  Maybe some believe there is a fine line between fat shaming and nutrition advice, but we cannot give up trying.  The message cannot become, "don't bother trying lifestyle changes, all the forces are against you, drugs are the only thing that work."  That would be incredibly damaging!

The drugs seem to be a miracle for those who really need them but they should be a last resort and should not be used to compensate for a bad diet, or to treat vanity pounds like celebs are doing.[/quote]

Why should they be a last resort? [/quote]

Last resort...that's crazy!  Surgery should be last resort.

The mental gymnastics some of you are having are these meds is astonishing. They are helping lose weight and get healthy! Why are so against them?  Page after page, no still has explained why the same conversations are not had about anxiety medications, acne medications cholesterol medications, blood pressure medications, ADHD medications,....[/quote]

No one is "against" them for those who need them.  [b]But shouldn't our goal be to reduce the number of people who become obese and need them?[/b]

What some seem to suggest is there is NO WAY to take personal accountability and stop the eating pattern before you eventually become obese.  So just throw up your hands and go straight to the meds.[/quote]

That’s been the goal for a number of years and yet the problem is only getting worse, fast. We’ve been telling people to take personal accountability eat healthy and exercise more for DECADES. Diet and exercise is a billion dollar industry. It’s simply not working. [/quote]
The fat shamers want us all to work harder at something that’s not working.  :lol:

And to respond to some of the bat crap insane ideas put forth on this thread by the fat shamers:
“People are going to be excited to get obese if these drugs are out there.” Are you people fully insane? I am obese. It is not fun. I am still a person of worth, but I would prefer to just purchase clothes easily and with more style. No one sets out to get obese.

“You’re all saying it’s bad to eat healthy and avoid gaining weight!” The hell we are. Lots of us “ate healthy” for what that meant at the time. “Eating healthy” for a long time was no or low fat. While Dr. Dean Ornish felt that meant little to no meat and lots of vegetables and some low fat things, that’s not how many people ate. Even the ridiculous Snackwells had the halo of healthy. They weren’t high in fat, remember? People still push this nonsense, when all “low fat” does is drive people away from whole foods like full fat dairy and meat and things like deliciously prepared vegetables. (Are low fat veg dishes sometimes good? Sure. Are they as good as veggies with some butter or olive oil? Hell no!) And once you have disrupted how people eat and do not replace it with something of equal nutritional value, you have broken them and a segment will throw up their hands and say it’s all bad. Enter really ridiculously bad eating habits. Nutritional nihilism.

“People are fat because they’re lazy and dumb and make bad choices” (oh, sorry, “most people are overweight due to lifestyle habits”) OH MY GOD. If it were this simple, making the changes would magic the weight off. I know you keyboard trainers think it’s all CICO but if that were the case, we wouldn’t have obesity problems. [/quote]

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