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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People who are bothered by plane noise seriously bother me. Especially being that far out.

I walk/run by DCA several days a week - it's about 1.5 mile from my home on paths, and considerably shorter if you draw a direct line. It's white noise. And you physically FEEL takeoff and landing sometimes.

Not a big deal, but a tradeoff for living in the neighborhood we choose to live in.

If you're that abnormally sensitive, move elsewhere and don't complain about not having an airport you can get to easily.[/quote]

This PP seems a bit too defensive.  I actually work for a major airline, and I still hate the sound of airplane noise.

In about 15 years, we can expect quieter aircraft, as Boeing and Airbus have those in the plans.  (Granted, electric airplanes are less likely.)[/quote]

You are right. This is the first of these threads that took off; probably because the adverse effects and the terribleness of the situation are wholly undeniable!
Otherwise they just try to shame people into not dragging their real estate $ down by mocking it and others (calling them crazy, abnormally sensitive) but then can’t stop complaining on the private listserv.

Real estate $ won’t save anyone from a near certain disease. Estimate is 70% increase in cardiovascular alone. The only positive from a recent study was that
people go deaf sooner and then the effects lessen a bit. It’s the kids that will have the worst effects later in life from the ultrafines pushed by jets into lungs, brain etc. (not an exaggeration, directly from UWA, German, NJ studies).

Reminds me of Spring Valley people doing the same. We figured ok, but we’ll test the “cleaned” soil. I could have killed people with a pool me of the heavy metals from a spoonful of that yard.

No, thanks [/quote]

Planes flying a few thousand feet over your head are not meaningfully contaminating the air in your neighborhood.  The exhaust/fumes/etc. would be dispersed by the wind and spread out into the atmosphere before they make it down to the ground.[/quote]

True, but it's still noisy.. We have high flying planes, but you can hear them very well, and it's not like a hum of a highway, it's a lot more annoying and unpleasant to human ear and brain.   I am not worried about pollution, but can use less airline noise.  I would be fine with a plane flying overhead ever 10 min and won't even notice it.  But during the hours when most traffic is directed along specific lines (there is more than one) in our auditory range, there is no relief, because planes fly every 45 sec on average.  Noise lingers, one plane leaves auditory range when the other one enters.  It's why I think it's unfair to have these beelines in the sky unless you make more of them, so that traffic is dispersed and everyone gets a little, but nobody gets most of it for hours on end every day. [/quote]

People, they are. It doesn’t disperse, please read the most recent science. It gets pushed downwards by jets into your major organs. Not to be too graphic, but you’re better off standing in the middle of the Beltway.[/quote]

I have different air quality monitors.  I have a device that measures fine and ultrafine particles, we have very very low levels, we are also in a heavily wooded area, which maybe helps with this.  Or maybe it's because the planes are taking off and not exactly right over our heads?  Like I said, they don't need to be right over your house to be audible and annoying, they fly over other homes but we hear them and see them, they fly in a line, sometimes you can see 2 planes one after another.  This has to stop, no more highways in the sky. [/quote]

Your monitor can’t measure ultra fines. You are measuring PM2.5 at best (fine) and PM10 (coarse). Ultra fine are PM 0.1[/quote]

If the green canopy is eating up fine particles why can't it eat up ultrafine? You want to get rid of carbon, it's what the trees and plants do.    Anyway, not sure why you are arguing with me, I am very much against these highways in the sky for many reasons.   I am also not a rural type of person and always lived near the cities, so exposed to pollution from highways, cars, and lots of cell towers.  If I want clean living I have to move far away from any major metro area.  I don't think it's an option for many people. [/quote]

Truly not trying to argue. Just to spread the knowledge because it’s really much different just a bit outside the flight corridor. You are correct about the noise, but the health effects are under appreciated. [/quote]

Health effects of everything are underappreciated.  We are constantly exposed to radiation from wireless tech, cell towers, home devices, etc.  We are eating poor quality modified foods that contain harmful substances, most of the modern products we have around us are hazardous to our health.  Airline pollution just adds to it.  But highway pollution had been around forever and is still probably a lot worse than pollution from the distant airplanes. [/quote]

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