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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My "kid" will be in 18, in college, and learning critical thinking. It won't matter what I think because it's not my job to shelter him at that point.

Even at 14, he had a teacher tell him LAST MONTH that the civil war wasn't about slavery, it was about state's rights. I didn't put up a fuss because he is old enough already to use his brain and begin filtering bs.

You want to shield your kids forever, fine. But I'll teach mine to take in information and examine it critically.[/quote]

Actually there is very little "critical thinking" going on in colleges right now (I have three in three different schools.)  There is an approved narrative that each person must agree with or be 1) socially shunned; 2) shouted down; 3) graded down.  Even things that have little to do with race, like support of labor unions.  My DS was warned by a professor that in his major, it is an assumption that unions are positive, productive and necessary, and no criticism is allowed.  Don't even ask about history classes, anthropology classes, etc.  They have taken to assigning whole books written by journalists and other non professionals or memoirs rather than multiple peer reviewed articles coming from a variety of positions.

Frankly, it is shocking to me as someone who attended a top university where professors would challenge every idea and demand that you be able to argue your position with evidence.  Instead, it is... read a book about how racist society was or is, then write a "critique" where you "agree" with the author, then discuss in a class where anyone who dares to disagree is silenced.

That is definitely NOT critical thinking.[/quote]

I agree. What's going on is exactly the opposite of critical thinking.  You must follow a political/ideological orthodoxy or else! And feckless college administrators put up with it.  Even creeped into Math of all places.  I assume the physical sciences are not as subject to this[/quote]

Good lord, you are so full of it. I teach at university, and this is just a false narrative. In fact, it is NO DIFFERENT than the same bullspit I heard when I started teaching in the 90s about colleges being "liberal indoctrination" farms. The terminology has changed over the decades...first it was about economic liberalism (post Reagan), then anti-military USA hating elites," then came "the gay agenda." Now the boogeyman is "CRT." The playbook and the whining has never changed, though.

You would have been the parent of the kid who said he had to drop my Persuasion and Rhetoric class in 2014 because we were reading articles about gay marriage and his parents said it went against his religion. Or the kid in 2006 who objected to learning different things about the iraq war through reading, or the kid in my first class as a TA who told me that he thought college was going to try to teach him what to think, not how to think, because his parents had drilled it into him to be wary of his liberal, Clinton voting professors.

Nothing changes.

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NP--  I don't agree they are full of it. They are presenting a different viewpoint than yours. As a professor I would hope you would be open to a differing viewpoint.[/quote]

Also, whether I agree or disagree with my students, my job as a professor is not simply to "respect" other viewpoints. It is to challenge students critically. I am open and I listen, but not passively. [/quote]

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