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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Conclusion from reading this thread. Vienna has a pervasive bullying / attitude problem at both the parent and kid level. Looks like a club that needs a shakeup from top down or change in culture. [/quote] I have several VYS players, from teenage years down to U-little, and have been a parent with VYS players for about 4 years now. I have not once witnessed or heard any discussion of any problem with "bullying." Of course, there are many individual teams within VYS, and I certainly don't have information on all of them -- I'm not part of VYS, just a parent. But I cannot imagine that a "bullying" problem would be permitted to persist in the manner described. And I don't know what the "plastic bubble" metaphor is supposed to mean. [/quote] Not the one who noted either of these but "plastic bubble" refers to overprotection of kid, which is basically a round about way of saying spoiled / helicopter parent. Just because you haven't heard of bullying does not mean there isn't a problem. It means the bullies have not targeted your kids; your kids have other things to discuss; and certainly the coaches are not going to advertise such issues. Don't think the OP was suggesting everyone is bullied. But, it does seem we have multiple teams (3 or more) in VYS who have noted such behavioral issues. Is that out of the norm? Not sure. But, one case is too many.[/quote] Parents don’t take enough responsibility when kids are bullied, and they don’t teach their kids to break the cycle. When bullying happens, the kid will cry and get withdrawn and whatever. Typically DCUM parents will go on a plastic bubble crusade. Instead parents need to sit down with their kid and ask them to stop and take a good look in the mirror. Why is the bullying happening? What messages are the other kids trying to send? Are the other kids really telling your child to pay attention in practice? Figure out how to receive a pass IN-BOUNDS? Maybe your kid talked like a dork when his teammates were trying to get with some hot 8th or 9th grade girls after a tournament? If YOU were trying to hook up and it depended on your appearance and being cool, would you really want your kid to come up and start talking about playing Yu-gi-oh at the team party four years ago in 4th grade? We coddle kids when they claim they were bullied, when really the “bullied” kids are just being shown the consequences of being weird. Maybe if you teach your kids THAT instead of always fawning over them as victims, then they’ll maybe get to first or second base before they die. Just telling it like it is.[/quote] Try not to stereotype, but I've got $1,000 that says you're a fat, white Trump voter.[/quote]
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