Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 12:15     Subject: Kiss-ass parents
and those kids don't even make it far enough to play in college. The stories I could tell about the big baseball "stars" where I live. Only 1 kid I know got any kind of scholarship to college and the kid is flunking out. I would not be proud as a parent that I encouraged my kid to focus their life on a game lto the exclusion of education so the kid can play at some college no one has ever heard of in eastern NC. Watch and see how many of these "stars" go to crappy colleges to play and then drop out. I've seen the same with lacrosse.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 12:10     Subject: Kiss-ass parents
Anonymous wrote:What kind of psychopath pro-bullying post did I just read? People actually think like this?!


It was very common to see parents who wanted their kids to be the aggressive a**hole in both soccer and baseball. Any kid who was different, even if they were talented, were bullied on most of the teams my kids were on. I never saw a mom or dad ever be concerned about their kid bullying another kid on those teams. Ever. It happened on all the teams my kids were on in these 2 sports, baseball was the worst. A lot of it is the perpetuation of toxic masculinity. The parents with the jerk kids believe they have to be this way to make it to the pros.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2021 10:43     Subject: Re:Kiss-ass parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conclusion from reading this thread. Vienna has a pervasive bullying / attitude problem at both the parent and kid level. Looks like a club that needs a shakeup from top down or change in culture.


I have several VYS players, from teenage years down to U-little, and have been a parent with VYS players for about 4 years now. I have not once witnessed or heard any discussion of any problem with "bullying."

Of course, there are many individual teams within VYS, and I certainly don't have information on all of them -- I'm not part of VYS, just a parent. But I cannot imagine that a "bullying" problem would be permitted to persist in the manner described.

And I don't know what the "plastic bubble" metaphor is supposed to mean.


Not the one who noted either of these but "plastic bubble" refers to overprotection of kid, which is basically a round about way of saying spoiled / helicopter parent. Just because you haven't heard of bullying does not mean there isn't a problem. It means the bullies have not targeted your kids; your kids have other things to discuss; and certainly the coaches are not going to advertise such issues. Don't think the OP was suggesting everyone is bullied. But, it does seem we have multiple teams (3 or more) in VYS who have noted such behavioral issues. Is that out of the norm? Not sure. But, one case is too many.



Parents don’t take enough responsibility when kids are bullied, and they don’t teach their kids to break the cycle.

When bullying happens, the kid will cry and get withdrawn and whatever. Typically DCUM parents will go on a plastic bubble crusade.

Instead parents need to sit down with their kid and ask them to stop and take a good look in the mirror. Why is the bullying happening? What messages are the other kids trying to send?

Are the other kids really telling your child to pay attention in practice? Figure out how to receive a pass IN-BOUNDS? Maybe your kid talked like a dork when his teammates were trying to get with some hot 8th or 9th grade girls after a tournament? If YOU were trying to hook up and it depended on your appearance and being cool, would you really want your kid to come up and start talking about playing Yu-gi-oh at the team party four years ago in 4th grade?

We coddle kids when they claim they were bullied, when really the “bullied” kids are just being shown the consequences of being weird. Maybe if you teach your kids THAT instead of always fawning over them as victims, then they’ll maybe get to first or second base before they die. Just telling it like it is.


Try not to stereotype, but I've got $1,000 that says you're a fat, white Trump voter.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2021 10:38     Subject: Kiss-ass parents
What kind of psychopath pro-bullying post did I just read? People actually think like this?!
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2021 10:29     Subject: Re:Kiss-ass parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conclusion from reading this thread. Vienna has a pervasive bullying / attitude problem at both the parent and kid level. Looks like a club that needs a shakeup from top down or change in culture.


I have several VYS players, from teenage years down to U-little, and have been a parent with VYS players for about 4 years now. I have not once witnessed or heard any discussion of any problem with "bullying."

Of course, there are many individual teams within VYS, and I certainly don't have information on all of them -- I'm not part of VYS, just a parent. But I cannot imagine that a "bullying" problem would be permitted to persist in the manner described.

And I don't know what the "plastic bubble" metaphor is supposed to mean.


Not the one who noted either of these but "plastic bubble" refers to overprotection of kid, which is basically a round about way of saying spoiled / helicopter parent. Just because you haven't heard of bullying does not mean there isn't a problem. It means the bullies have not targeted your kids; your kids have other things to discuss; and certainly the coaches are not going to advertise such issues. Don't think the OP was suggesting everyone is bullied. But, it does seem we have multiple teams (3 or more) in VYS who have noted such behavioral issues. Is that out of the norm? Not sure. But, one case is too many.





Parents don’t take enough responsibility when kids are bullied, and they don’t teach their kids to break the cycle.

When bullying happens, the kid will cry and get withdrawn and whatever. Typically DCUM parents will go on a plastic bubble crusade.

Instead parents need to sit down with their kid and ask them to stop and take a good look in the mirror. Why is the bullying happening? What messages are the other kids trying to send?

Are the other kids really telling your child to pay attention in practice? Figure out how to receive a pass IN-BOUNDS? Maybe your kid talked like a dork when his teammates were trying to get with some hot 8th or 9th grade girls after a tournament? If YOU were trying to hook up and it depended on your appearance and being cool, would you really want your kid to come up and start talking about playing Yu-gi-oh at the team party four years ago in 4th grade?

We coddle kids when they claim they were bullied, when really the “bullied” kids are just being shown the consequences of being weird. Maybe if you teach your kids THAT instead of always fawning over them as victims, then they’ll maybe get to first or second base before they die. Just telling it like it is.


So the victim is is really the cause here?
I guess when someone gets sexually assaulted, you are the type that says: "They were looking for it".
Good for you to hide behind this anonymous board. Punk troll.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2021 07:19     Subject: Re:Kiss-ass parents


Parents don’t take enough responsibility when kids are bullied, and they don’t teach their kids to break the cycle.

When bullying happens, the kid will cry and get withdrawn and whatever. Typically DCUM parents will go on a plastic bubble crusade.

Instead parents need to sit down with their kid and ask them to stop and take a good look in the mirror. Why is the bullying happening? What messages are the other kids trying to send?

Are the other kids really telling your child to pay attention in practice? Figure out how to receive a pass IN-BOUNDS? Maybe your kid talked like a dork when his teammates were trying to get with some hot 8th or 9th grade girls after a tournament? If YOU were trying to hook up and it depended on your appearance and being cool, would you really want your kid to come up and start talking about playing Yu-gi-oh at the team party four years ago in 4th grade?

We coddle kids when they claim they were bullied, when really the “bullied” kids are just being shown the consequences of being weird. Maybe if you teach your kids THAT instead of always fawning over them as victims, then they’ll maybe get to first or second base before they die. Just telling it like it is.


You are greatly simplifying the nature of these problems. As a parent of a kid who has been bullied by a teammate, I can tell you that the bullying didn't really bother him. He is a small kid, who was going about his business in practice when he'd repeatedly be called "tiny" "shorty" and whatever else by a kid on the same team. Size is beyond his control. My kid learned a long time ago that he lets his abilities do the talking. So, he was happy to ignore it or tell him to shut up. But, it's the repeated bickering, the stop in play, the distraction, and the flat out bullshit nonsense that bothered him and the other kids. Finally, when he went to practice with another team he said, "Oh my God...everyone was there to play soccer. There was no trash talk or nonsense." He didn't want to leave the rest of his friends, but felt like he had no choice if he wanted to seriously focus on soccer. The problem child was never disciplined, saw no reduction in playing time, or anything. He was welcomed back with open arms. This is why it falls on the coaches to step in and make it clear that the kids are there to play soccer and learn together - not create nonstop distractions. Simply "toughening up" does nothing to resolve the underlying problem.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2021 23:00     Subject: Kiss-ass parents
That is a typical dumb jock response. The consequences of being weird? You sound like a typical block head enabling the typical bullying kid. Apples, trees, you, moron.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2021 22:43     Subject: Re:Kiss-ass parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conclusion from reading this thread. Vienna has a pervasive bullying / attitude problem at both the parent and kid level. Looks like a club that needs a shakeup from top down or change in culture.


I have several VYS players, from teenage years down to U-little, and have been a parent with VYS players for about 4 years now. I have not once witnessed or heard any discussion of any problem with "bullying."

Of course, there are many individual teams within VYS, and I certainly don't have information on all of them -- I'm not part of VYS, just a parent. But I cannot imagine that a "bullying" problem would be permitted to persist in the manner described.

And I don't know what the "plastic bubble" metaphor is supposed to mean.


Not the one who noted either of these but "plastic bubble" refers to overprotection of kid, which is basically a round about way of saying spoiled / helicopter parent. Just because you haven't heard of bullying does not mean there isn't a problem. It means the bullies have not targeted your kids; your kids have other things to discuss; and certainly the coaches are not going to advertise such issues. Don't think the OP was suggesting everyone is bullied. But, it does seem we have multiple teams (3 or more) in VYS who have noted such behavioral issues. Is that out of the norm? Not sure. But, one case is too many.


Parents don’t take enough responsibility when kids are bullied, and they don’t teach their kids to break the cycle.

When bullying happens, the kid will cry and get withdrawn and whatever. Typically DCUM parents will go on a plastic bubble crusade.

Instead parents need to sit down with their kid and ask them to stop and take a good look in the mirror. Why is the bullying happening? What messages are the other kids trying to send?

Are the other kids really telling your child to pay attention in practice? Figure out how to receive a pass IN-BOUNDS? Maybe your kid talked like a dork when his teammates were trying to get with some hot 8th or 9th grade girls after a tournament? If YOU were trying to hook up and it depended on your appearance and being cool, would you really want your kid to come up and start talking about playing Yu-gi-oh at the team party four years ago in 4th grade?

We coddle kids when they claim they were bullied, when really the “bullied” kids are just being shown the consequences of being weird. Maybe if you teach your kids THAT instead of always fawning over them as victims, then they’ll maybe get to first or second base before they die. Just telling it like it is.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2021 19:49     Subject: Kiss-ass parents
Anonymous wrote:
One of the foundations and benefits of the entire sports community is the opportunity to learn life skills and make friends, because the overwhelming majority aren't going to be pros in their given sport. Or should the coaches just stop talking about being there for the love of the game and all the things in they attribute in their life that they got from their soccer/sports experience if that's no longer part of the social contract implicit in sports? No one thinks a coach should be raising their kid or giving parenting advice. A coach is still a role model and instills values and projects an image to these kids, just like their teachers.


Thank you for your service. A+ point.

I get that it is tough, especially for 20something coaches to know how to handle kids (especially of the opposite sex), but honestly, I want my kid (currently U13) to play as much sports as possible to learn additional life skills they may not be getting (or getting as much of) at school or from me -- teamwork, conflict resolution, resilience (failing and learning to pick yourself up), accountability, joy, pain, etc. My kid isn't getting a free ride at college, so we are in this for the life lessons (and the excercise). We are fortunate to have a coach, while he isn't perfect, gets that.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2021 17:48     Subject: Re:Kiss-ass parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conclusion from reading this thread. Vienna has a pervasive bullying / attitude problem at both the parent and kid level. Looks like a club that needs a shakeup from top down or change in culture.


I have several VYS players, from teenage years down to U-little, and have been a parent with VYS players for about 4 years now. I have not once witnessed or heard any discussion of any problem with "bullying."

Of course, there are many individual teams within VYS, and I certainly don't have information on all of them -- I'm not part of VYS, just a parent. But I cannot imagine that a "bullying" problem would be permitted to persist in the manner described.

And I don't know what the "plastic bubble" metaphor is supposed to mean.


Not the one who noted either of these but "plastic bubble" refers to overprotection of kid, which is basically a round about way of saying spoiled / helicopter parent. Just because you haven't heard of bullying does not mean there isn't a problem. It means the bullies have not targeted your kids; your kids have other things to discuss; and certainly the coaches are not going to advertise such issues. Don't think the OP was suggesting everyone is bullied. But, it does seem we have multiple teams (3 or more) in VYS who have noted such behavioral issues. Is that out of the norm? Not sure. But, one case is too many.


Ha! My kid would enjoy putting anyone in there place if they even tried to bully them. Stand out among the masses and try not to be ordinary.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2021 15:13     Subject: Re:Kiss-ass parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conclusion from reading this thread. Vienna has a pervasive bullying / attitude problem at both the parent and kid level. Looks like a club that needs a shakeup from top down or change in culture.


I have several VYS players, from teenage years down to U-little, and have been a parent with VYS players for about 4 years now. I have not once witnessed or heard any discussion of any problem with "bullying."

Of course, there are many individual teams within VYS, and I certainly don't have information on all of them -- I'm not part of VYS, just a parent. But I cannot imagine that a "bullying" problem would be permitted to persist in the manner described.

And I don't know what the "plastic bubble" metaphor is supposed to mean.


Not the one who noted either of these but "plastic bubble" refers to overprotection of kid, which is basically a round about way of saying spoiled / helicopter parent. Just because you haven't heard of bullying does not mean there isn't a problem. It means the bullies have not targeted your kids; your kids have other things to discuss; and certainly the coaches are not going to advertise such issues. Don't think the OP was suggesting everyone is bullied. But, it does seem we have multiple teams (3 or more) in VYS who have noted such behavioral issues. Is that out of the norm? Not sure. But, one case is too many.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2021 13:10     Subject: Re:Kiss-ass parents
Anonymous wrote:Conclusion from reading this thread. Vienna has a pervasive bullying / attitude problem at both the parent and kid level. Looks like a club that needs a shakeup from top down or change in culture.


I have several VYS players, from teenage years down to U-little, and have been a parent with VYS players for about 4 years now. I have not once witnessed or heard any discussion of any problem with "bullying."

Of course, there are many individual teams within VYS, and I certainly don't have information on all of them -- I'm not part of VYS, just a parent. But I cannot imagine that a "bullying" problem would be permitted to persist in the manner described.

And I don't know what the "plastic bubble" metaphor is supposed to mean.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2021 12:24     Subject: Re:Kiss-ass parents
lol found you
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2021 05:33     Subject: Kiss-ass parents
Anonymous wrote:Back to Kiss a$$ parents- tell me if you know this guy lol
So this guy is all smiles and loves everyone and their kid, then actively tries to recruit new players with a good chance they’ll replace YOUR kid.
This guy took over collecting funds and buying the coach an end of year gift from the team manager to “help out.” Wanna help me, bud? Schedule some games, get cash for the refs, enter stuff in teamsnap.
This guy travels to other teams tournaments and actively, visibly, cheers for that team. Doesn’t have any friends with kids on that team. Makes sure the coaches know he was there though.
This guy never played the sport but is an expert on handballs and offsides, and what position your kid is best suited for, which is never the position his kid is best suited for.
This guy knows more about what happens over the weekend at other teams games, than you do about your own team.
This guy hosts team bonding events that star his kid.
This guy had a guest player on our team, when another called out sick, in a heartbeat, like they were waiting by the phone.
This guy will scout other games and tell you what player your kid needs to focus on during the game, what their number is, their hair color, their favorite cereal, and their home address.
This guy, anyone know him?



Who cares, get a life.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2021 01:48     Subject: Kiss-ass parents
Back to Kiss a$$ parents- tell me if you know this guy lol
So this guy is all smiles and loves everyone and their kid, then actively tries to recruit new players with a good chance they’ll replace YOUR kid.
This guy took over collecting funds and buying the coach an end of year gift from the team manager to “help out.” Wanna help me, bud? Schedule some games, get cash for the refs, enter stuff in teamsnap.
This guy travels to other teams tournaments and actively, visibly, cheers for that team. Doesn’t have any friends with kids on that team. Makes sure the coaches know he was there though.
This guy never played the sport but is an expert on handballs and offsides, and what position your kid is best suited for, which is never the position his kid is best suited for.
This guy knows more about what happens over the weekend at other teams games, than you do about your own team.
This guy hosts team bonding events that star his kid.
This guy had a guest player on our team, when another called out sick, in a heartbeat, like they were waiting by the phone.
This guy will scout other games and tell you what player your kid needs to focus on during the game, what their number is, their hair color, their favorite cereal, and their home address.
This guy, anyone know him?