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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are there really businesses that sell TJ test questions?  If so, that's insane![/quote]

They do.  Because parents like the one on this board defending the practice will pay for them.

And understand that TJ is VERY VERY clear that getting test questions (prior year or current year) or providing test questions (ditto) is an integrity violation, unless the teacher okays it.  This is not a grey area.  It comes under the heading of "obtaining an unfair advantage/ aiding and abetting dishonesty" as TJ interprets it.  It is defined as cheating by TJ.  Again, unless the teacher or department sign off. Which is where, "ask the teacher if you have any doubt" comes in.  I tell my kid to email the teacher about honor code questions, so the response is in writing and there can be no misunderstanding.

And if the parents are somehow confused on this point (they shouldn't be) their kids are not.  Because they have been told repeatedly.  But, many parents punish anything below an A, and push the kids to accelerate beyond what they are ready for.  So kids feel like they have no choice. And parents insist their kids do this because that's what they did in India, or they don't care if it's cheating because it shouldn't be in their opinion, or Ivy League at any cost or the lazy white kids should be willing to cheat too.  And if their kid is caught, they fight the kid getting a zero or getting any punishment-- like the nutty "downward spiral" mom upthread.

Which why the increasing numbers of Asian kids at TJ. upset people. Not because people care is the kids are black, brown, blue or purple. But because it  makes a high pressure situation toxic.  There are kids blatantly, openly, standing in the hall cheating and kids really pissed off that a subset of their peers cheat-- especially since many of the classes are curved.  My kid has had lab reports stolen and kids in his class slow walk lab equipment that everyone needs to share so that some kids can't finish in time.  It's creates anxiety, anger, and resentment.  If TJ wants to still be viable in 5 years, they have to get serious about addressing it. Otherwise, it's only a matter of time it reaches a tipping point and a TJ diploma is worth nothing, because colleges know TJ kids are cheaters. And TJ kids come into college communities and continue this and cause problems.

[b]It's time to start expelling kids. Parents will get the message really fast and cut it out. And I do think it is largely parent driven, not kid driven[/b]. [/quote]

That's what should happen. When kids are under threat of getting expelled, both kids and parents will change their behavior.  I think making TJ admission test harder is likely to remove some bad apples from getting in. I hope they do away from the arbitrary second round and stick with really hard test only for admission.
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