Reply to Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Forum Index » Political Discussion

Reply to "Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable "

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The inevitability grows stronger by the day!!!![/quote]

You know nato members are pushing for the Ukraine to be admitted to NATO. Plan is to incorporate them in to NATO by the end of the year. [/quote]

Everyone agrees that NATO inclusion will only happen after the armed conflict. Everyone agrees the armed conflict will stagger along until at least 2024.

So I'll go out on a limb and say that you're very wrong.

[/quote]

[quote] President joe biden was blunt this month about Ukraine’s chances of joining nato. “I’m not going to make it easier,” he declared. Despite its bold fight against Russia, the country still has to prove itself: “Does it meet all the standards every other nation in nato does?” Joining the alliance, he insisted, “is not automatic”.

America thus finds itself unusually isolated in the transatlantic alliance it founded and that it has long dominated. It is the indispensable supporter of Ukraine’s war, providing the lion’s share of military aid (see chart). Yet it is now the most reluctant of the allies to admit Ukraine to nato.[/quote]
https://www.economist.com/international/2023/06/21/nato-is-agonising-over-whether-to-let-ukraine-join[/quote]

Biden isn’t as big of an idiot as people claim

He’s doing what he’s supposed to do - slow walk this conflict to bleed Russians

If ukr even has a sniff towards “breakout” into nato, Russia will nuke multiple Ukrainian cities.

I’m not Russian, I don’t really like eastern euros as a whole and think the eu has been weakened by expansion (im excited about the new Atlantic working group within the eu — Portugal, Spain, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark).

But Russia is not lying when they feel this is civilizational for them.

Biden deep down knows this hence why he has to balance between pushing matiriel but then walk back support at certain times [/quote]
NP.  I agree with this.  I think the US is making the same mistake that it’s made since Vietnam: not understanding fully, or being wholly wrong about the enemy’s reasons for sending its sons to die & also believing technology (and PowerPoint) can win wars aka “the bomber will always get through”; surely if we provide our proxies with enough cool stuff they’ll easily win (in this case much of the cool stuff is actually decades old, previous generation equipment that was already mothballed).  
As Russia drags this war on and on, it may come to pass that Ukrainians start to ask if Ukrainian victory is so important to the US, why is American soldiers’ blood not being spilled for our independence.[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics