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[quote=Anonymous]To me, discipline corrects behavior so that offenses aren't committed. When it is a grave offense, a punishment is the consequence. Fear of punishment is an effective deterrent for many, many people. I don't know statistical data around this, but I would be curious to know if the people who aren't so afraid of punishment are desensitized to it because of their conditions. For example, a child that was sold as a sex slave may not find the crime of prostitutiom and punishment of jail as a fearful consequence, considering the trauma.

When we place this in the context of parenting young, healthy, innocent children, I think discipline could be something as simple as "you didn't do your homework, now we are correcting the behavior by having tmyou complete all homework by XYZ and giving it to us to see each night before you can have screen time. The trust is reeled in and we will guide you in becoming disciplined until you can. If this continues, the consequence of no homework becoming a systemic academic barrier is a greater concern; therefore we are punishing you by taking away all gaming, screen time, until your score comes up in this class.

For younger children, I can personally see how yelling intended as discipline easily being internalized as a punishment if it makes them feel badly. Maybe less than spanking even. Both are controversial because A lot of this is circumstantial, subjective to the child, there are many other factors to consider. There are millions of children were yelled at, and are absolutely healthy and fine.millions of others who were traumatized and developed crippling and unhealthy coping mechanisms. I don't know that this is a black and white issue for every family. [/quote]

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