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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nothing wrong with it, just that some posters mock others because of their own insecurities [/quote]

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[b]People trying to tell you that trying is for losers[/b] are stuck in their own victim mentality. Their inability to succeed is everyone else's fault. Not because they don't want to put in the effort. So they have to mock those who do.[/quote]

No one on this thread is doing the bolded. You don’t need to invent things.[/quote]

The first sentence of this thread:
[b]Why are any of these terms considered insults?[/b]

Insulting, looking down on someone, thinking it's loser behavior
These are all in the same vein

Hope that helps[/quote]

Again, no one on this thread is saying that “trying is for losers.” This is a massive strawman.[/quote]

OP is saying people think grinders and strivers are insults. Grinding and striving means trying.
Insulting (saying is someone is not good/cool, bad/loser) strivers (people trying) is what we are talking about
A strawman is exaggerating to make your point. I am not doing that.[/quote]

If you're going to absolutely insist that "grinding" and "striving" only mean working hard and trying, there's really no arguing with you. But you can't control how language is viewed and used by other people. I love people that try and work hard and all of that good stuff, but I know that in some contexts that's not what "grinding" and "striving" means. Maybe grinding and striving used to mean something different, and maybe they still mean something different in different contexts, but they now have an additional negative meaning other than simply working hard. Again, don't shoot the messenger!

For example, I love kids who try hard, but I would never call a kid I liked a "try hard" because I know that's a pejorative term. It clearly means something more than trying hard, and no amount of wishful thinking is going to change how words are used by the majority of people. [/quote]

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