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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The argument that the teacher's union bargained for their bonuses and the charter schools shouldn't benefit is not really a fair argument.  The union bargained the bonuses, but not with council on the overall budget. The school system needs to account for those bonuses in their overall budget.  The charter schools by law are to get equal funding.  It doesn't matter if the teachers union bargained for a benefit. What matters is that the funding between DCPS and the charters schools is the same.  If DCPS is giving bonuses, that is up to them.  The charter schools should get the same increase by law and may opt to use it for bonuses, raises or something like a new HVAC.   [/quote]

So DCPS teacher should spend significant dues and time to negotiate a raise for the charter teachers?

That's not persuasive either.[/quote]

You don't seem to understand how markets work. The prevailing rate is the prevailing rate, and it doesn't matter how it became the prevailing rate. [/quote]

Er, I don't think you know what a market is. You are talking about city government allocating funds between different programs and departments.  Budget allocation is *not* a market.

The rate/price/salary is what buyers and sellers agree to.  And when sellers -- or buyers -- consolidate, they have more bargaining power.

Because of the existence of the teachers union, the market for public school teachers is cloven from the market for charter school teachers.  Although the supply for new teachers for both markets draws from the same pool, the employers are operating under different market dynamics.  [b]Therefore, the prevailing market price in the 2 markets is not the same[/b].

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Except when one market chooses to match the other. Then they are literally "THE SAME".

AI slop for sure. [/quote]

So the charter schools have collectively chosen to match DCPS salaries?[/quote]

Tell me you don't have a clue how charters work without telling me.

There is no "collective" Every charter school (or group of charters) is its own LEA. DCPS is an LEA. Each LEA operates independently, making budget and salary determinations as its own LEA.[/quote]

I'm the immediate PP.  You're expressing frustration with the wrong person.  It was the PP who I posed my question to that is confused.

She thinks that charter school teachers should get the same pay what the WTU negotiates for DCPS teachers because it is all one big DC budget.

But you can't just "match" salaries without matching the work conditions and requirements.  And then a charter school would no longer be exercising the freedom they have to not run the school the way they think is best.

The situation is very complex, which is why figuring out fair allocations between sectors is complicated. [/quote]

There was never any deal in which charters agreed to take less money in exchange for more freedom. Charters were set up by Congress to set a separate system because people believed DCPS wasn't doing its job. They're supposed to be equally funded. [/quote]

Of course not.

But there's still no clear analysis her showing that DCPCS are under-funded.  Just a lot of complaints about poor DC decisions to build a handful of monument schools a few years back.  We'e got complaints that the teachers are paid less, but that dynamic is not an issue of the funding, at least not directly.  We've got a debate about comparative quality of facilities and who has it worse.  We've got a little discussion of how DCPS gets funded for programs its required to implement that DCPCSs aren't.  Lots of confusion; little clarity.[/quote]

You are ignoring that DCPS and WTU advocates are saying that bonuses negotiated for teachers so be excluded from what constitutes the DCPS budget.  Charter advocates say this is money going into the DCPS system and should be counted as DCPS funding.  If it is funding for the DCPS system, it should be matched for charters on a pro-rated per student basis.[/quote]

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