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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s normally not the teachers. Especially when we’re talking about younger kids. It’s administrative/district/legislative policies and laws.

This article is a few years old, and was about a kid in Canada… but it applies to how a lot of the policies in our public schools. The states are too.

If this thread we’re commenting on interests you at all, I promise you that you’ll want to read this article.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/education/article-educating-grayson-are-inclusive-classrooms-failing-students/

Go search the subreddit for teachers on reddit about inclusion. The vast majority of teachers are just as exasperated about having their hands tied. And they note that nothing will change unless parents of other kids in their class get involved in advocating for change/contacting the media/etc. 
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Thank you for posting this - I unlocked the article and am reading. Wow, wow, wow at his parents (I’m a few paragraphs in.)

There’s an element that’s hard to discuss for some people. I’m 50, and have an aunt with developmental disabilities who got instruction from MCPS and she and other adult disabled learners were periodically attacked by someone during class. The distinction is that that person would be removed, and ultimately expelled. This Canadian kid deserved the expulsion and then some but the distinction is that today - or 2019 - the parents take effectively no responsibility at all, even in retrospect, even apparently internally, when their child concusses an adult, or shoots a teacher, and so on. It’s a different world. There is no community and there is quite literally zero voluntary acknowledgment of the chaos and severe injuries when and where and on whom they are inflicted by way too many parents of these kids. [/quote]

I’m the PP that posted the article (it was a good article right?! I read it around when it came out and half a decade later still remember it and think it’s relevant).

Partially, because it’s… to put it frankly—rage bait. In the way that almost everyone who reads it [i]can not believe[/i] this actually happened. But it did, and it’s even more extreme now! This was Canada in 2018 or 2019.. in the U.S. in 2025 this kid would still be in the classroom because kids “can’t be punished due to actions that are a manifestation of their disability”—at least not without being at risk for a costly lawsuit.

And don’t get me wrong, A LOT of parents actively push for their kids who have these types of issues—to be removed from mainstreaming and put into private placements and such. But the issue is the cost. When, at this point it’s normal to have more than one kid who has these type of severe issues in each classroom.. like.. again: what is the answer?

I agree that it’s not the kid’s fault (in most cases), I agree that (in most cases) the parents are trying their hardest and at their wits end, and I [b]especially[/b] agree that the other 24-36 students in the class shouldn’t have [i]their[/i] rights to an education infringed upon.

With all that in mind, what is the solution besides increasing your taxes several fold to an even more extreme(pretty sure we already pay the most for k-12 out of every other OECD countries and also most of it is funded by your state taxes—so what is spent must be balanced and offset by your local taxes)

There’s no answer here that is both palatable to the majority and also serves everyone. [/quote]

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