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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In my part of the civil service, which is filled with STEM grad degrees, really the biggest issue is the GS-15 pay cap.

There really ought to be an entirely different pay system for STEM. [/quote]

Because you are so special?  You know the same holds true for several other disciplines right? Legal and finance immediately come to mind. [/quote]

Many Federal finance jobs already are in the excepted civil service and pay much better.  Some legal jobs also are, but those mainly are at financial parts of the government. [/quote]

excepted service does not necessarily mean better pay.  Many attorneys are excepted service but receive GS pay.[/quote]

There also are MANY attorneys who are in the excepted service AND do receive better pay. Being in the competitive service totally precludes that better pay possibility. [/quote]
Excepted service and non-GS pay scales are completely unrelated concepts.[/quote]

Actually not completely unrelated, and here is an example.

In the excepted civil service the GS-15 pay cap CAN be waived (though sometimes it is not waived). In the competitive civil service, by contrast, that pay cap NEVER can be waived. [/quote]

I was an excepted service employee for 7 years.  They can be related, but just as often are not.  They do not automatically go hand in hand and are agency specific.  My pay mirrored the GS scale.  My conditions of employment were completely different.  The biggest caveat of the excepted service is that although you can make a career out of it, you usually don't have the same protections/employment rules as a permanent full time employee.  In my agency's case, it is not better and most employees aim to land a permanent GS position. [/quote]

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