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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Spence and Chapin are near identical in academic offerings.  Sacred Heart is also great!

Brearley is really the one that is a step above.  [/quote]

Did you see the Spence college admissions account above? I don't think it's possible for a school to get better than that...[/quote]

I think most of these kids have big connections.  Seems like the students who get in to ivy from TT private are the connected ones [/quote]

Majority have connections.

The small number admitted at 9th grade do not matriculate at ivies[/quote]

Why do people believe this? Why is it that everyone who says things has no affiliation with these schools?

I’m not trying to be argumentative, but this is such nonsense. All it does is undermine the quality of the education and the abilities and talents of ambitious and hard-working kids. Stop doing this. We just did well at school and pursued the things we loved uncynically.

Dalton Ivy+ matriculation for ‘24 (i’m not going to post the page since it’s minors in a lot of cases and it’s weird making that public):

Yale: 5
Penn: 1
Harvard: 7
Brown: 5
Columbia: 2
Princeton: 6
MIT: 2
UChi: 5
Cornell: 4
Stanford: 2
Dartmouth: 1[/quote]

Dalton is a strong school.  Their matriculation data “benefits” significantly from parents status of donors and legacy.  The key is to apply ED to donee or legacy ivies[/quote]

Brother and sister went to dalton. Brother’s kid starting dalton next year. There are legacy kids - obviously my nephew is one. The VAST majority are not. Do you have kids/go there? [/quote]

Reading comprehensive?

PP was talking about legacy status of ivies, not legacy of Dalton.

My kid didn't go to Dalton, but another TT.  Yes, there are donors (to ivies) who help kids to get in ivies.  Legacy kids are everywhere.  [/quote]

Here’s what I wrote before about our respective experiences. We were absolute not the progeny of an elite family, nor were the vast majority of the kids who ended up at top schools. I’m still involved with my Alma mater, and I see year x year how it’s improving.

Quick rant:

I’m a trinity alum. My brother went to Collegiate until high school, then to Dalton, and my sister went to Dalton, too. With respect, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Everything you said is patently untrue for the vast majority of our student bodies. Do you or your family actually have affiliation with any of these schools?

My family certainly did not have a lot of money - i got 58k financial aid (we only paid between 1-4k per year), without which i wouldn’t have been able to attend. My sister got 45k. My brother left collegiate for dalton after they offered a much more generous financial aid package. This was true across the board for our schools.

Once you’re admitted - obviously after being selected from an enormous pool of applicants through a grueling admissions process - the schools want you to go there. Not for cynical reasons like yield, etc. (ok, sometimes cynical), but because they genuinely believe you’ll make a positive contribution to the school and your classmates. Their admissions teams aren’t greenhorns; they’re seasoned experts. They know how to shape a diverse class of productive, intelligent students. So, since they spend all that time literally sending admissions officers to observe you in your preschool class, they try to ensure that you’ll be able to attend.

They provide a great community and support system once you’re in, and they do everything in their power to help you get into a good school upon graduation. Why wouldn’t they? They benefit as much as the students from admissions statistics. But it’s more than that, too. Their resources allow for tremendous individual. But they also truly care about you. I’m still in touch with my favorite teachers, as are my siblings.

The schools we went to provided unbelievable guidance through the college application process. Each of us wound up at top unis (not humble bragging, just trying to make a point). They helped us recognize, then shore up, the weaknesses in our applications. They gave us advice, direction, and opportunities IN AND OUTSIDE of school to pursue ECs that interested us and added to our CV. They even offered tutoring to help us This was true for my classmates, as well. Rich kids aren’t the only people who can afford to ‘package’ an application, whatever that means.

Finally, the TRULY rich kids - they don’t actually need these schools. We’re not talking run-of-the-mill rich here. These are NYC-public-library-donor-wing rich. And there’s only a handful of them. They’re going to go to one of those schools regardless of how they package themselves. Why? Because they’ll probably live freshman year in a dorm that dons their family name. Which is fine. That’s just the way these things work.

What you’re saying is just a common misconception based on some weird, superficial assumptions. Really, we were just hard-working, ambitious students with strong passions we chose pursue because we loved them, and our school helped us in every way they could. TT schools aren’t’ for everyone, but it’s absurd to simply say rich kids rabble rabble rabble without acknowledging the other 90% of the student body, who also manage somehow, without hundreds of millions of dollars of family money, to get into top colleges, as well.
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