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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Williams is the one that stands out to me. No way I'd go there over Amherst or Swarthmore growing up in an area like DC.
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Friend of mine had a son who transferred from Williams because of this as well as the cliquishness of the other students.[/quote]

such a weird vibe at Williams - only school of 10 my DC eliminated immediately after the visit - she said kids were odd[/quote]

My outgoing, well-adjusted kid is ridiculously happy at Williams, just FYI. And I've met a bunch of their friends, none of whom are "odd."[/quote]

There are many athletes at Williams. They tend to be pretty normal socially. I'm sure there is a quirky, brilliant subset of kids less adept at socializing given the impressive academics though. Our student tour guide happened to be quirky, brilliant, but also social.[/quote]

Williams College reportedly has a distinct social divide between athletes and non-athletes. [/quote]

I've had kids at 2 different NESCAC schools, and I think they all have this issue. The schools are aware of it, and are trying to address it, starting with orientation and dorm assignments. [/quote]

How about they get to the root of it and stop prioritizing athletes in admissions? Right.[/quote]

Is the recruitment of athletes even at SLACs -- a relatively new thing in the life of these schools -- a strategy to game the rankings? It shifts admission earlier (reducing RD acceptance rates) and increases yield. I know it increases tuition revenue, since statistically speaking the athletes at these schools tend to pay more tuition. But it seems like the rankings might be just as big a motivator, if not bigger.

It def seems like the athlete/non-athlete divide has gotten much bigger at many SLACs, which seems really antithetical to their purported missions. It's too bad. [/quote]

this saddens me to hear. I went to a NESCAC and roomed for four years with the field hockey captain and had many friends who were athletes. Sure, during their seasons they ate with all of the athletes every night but otherwise mixed in. Back then, some teams took walk ons and I have no idea idea if the admissions standards were lowered for anyone besides the football players (their words, not mine). It has to be that the recruitment process has led to more of the professonalization of the teams like you see at D1 schools and therefore more separation between the athletes and non-athletes. Personally, I think the whole process of special consideration for athletes needs to end.[/quote]

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