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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can't believe some of the posters on here are completely letting the OP off the hook for her enmeshed, obsessive, controlling behavior in all of this but instead gaslighting the DIL by trying to turn it on her and saying she is the controlling one and it shouldn't have come from her. When you really can't have it both ways. Because the DIL probably sees how her MIL is with husband and recognizes her enmeshed ways with her son AKA DIL's husband and her husband most likely doesn't have a spine of his own to stand up to his mother so his poor wife has finally has enough and had to do it. That doesn't make her abusive give me a break that means she sees behavior for what it is and isn't afraid to try to put a stop to it. With the OP being the way she appears to be from her OP it gives the DIL a MUCH greater green light to speak up.[/quote]

As many PPs have said, OP is enmeshed and creepy, but DIL is ALSO controlling and obsessive. You just are ignoring all those posts.

DIL doesn't get a pass here. Her behavior is off too, as is OPs.[/quote]

I think OP is much more creepy and obsessive than the DIL. So her behavior kind of overlooks DIL's[/quote]

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