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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Don't forget South Carolina where the kids can get up to a 6.0 in a class for honors-AP-double honors-some nonsense.  [/quote]

PP is correct.  This has shifted the irrefutable selectivity ranking as follows:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) UVA 4.3
4) UM College Park 4.28
5) South Carolina 4.21
6) Harvard 4.18
7) Stanford 3.95
8) Princeton 3.90

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Don't forget Florida!:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) Florida 4.42
[b]4) UVA 4.3[/b]
5) UM College Park 4.28
6) South Carolina 4.21
7) Harvard 4.18
8) Stanford 3.95
9) Princeton 3.90[/quote]

The only thing standardized in admissions is standardized test scores, and many schools are trying to scuttle that or go test optional or get around it through loopholes (foreigners not counted, spring admits not counted).  [/quote]

Still, the more accurate stats are posted every fall by the State Higher Education Council of Virginia, has UVA median at a 4.35 and a 4.49 for 75th percentile.  If you are unhooked and applying from NoVA, you better be aiming for the top 75th percentile which is 4.49 GPA; 34 ACT or 1500 SAT or higher.  These are the scores of actual entering students, not acceptances (which are higher stats because a number of students peel off and go Ivy or SLACs). I know a lot of UVA legacy students who had that 75th percentile package last year and did not get in even as legacies.

GPA: 4.49 (75th percentile); 4.35 median; 4.25 bottom 25th
ACT: 34 (75th percentile); 33 median; 30 bottom 25th
SAT 1500 (75th percentile): 1430 median; 1340 bottom

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Man, I actually looked up SHECV. UVa is not even the most selective school in Virignia. Its SAT / ACT scores are slightly lower than those of W&L. Do you think Duke is worse than W&L?

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp[/quote].  You are looking at UVA-Wise, not UVA. The UVA entries are temporarily down.[/quote]

[b]I was looking at 2018-2019 numbers. UVA-C is behind W&L. [/quote][/b]

Still wrong.  The UVA numbers aren't posted right now for 2019-20.  (Or you are looking at VCU, not UVA)  But most college counselors print them out when the Commonwealth issues them.  For fall of 2019 (class of 2024), UVA had higher stats than W&M.in ACTs and GPA and across the board for all categories in median.  The SATs scores for UVA's entering class at the 75th/50th/25th percentiles were 1500/1430/1340. ACT scores were 34/33/30; GPA 4.49/4.35/4.21

At W&M the SATs were 1510/1410/1320;  ACT scores were 34/32/30 and GPA was 4.46/4.26/4.07.

The big difference are the scores for the median of the classes with UVA having an average entering GPA of 4.35 and W&M at 4.26.  Similarly, there is a gap in median SAT scores with UVA at 1430 and W&MM at 1420.  UVA's ACT median is a 33 compared to W&M's 32. [/quote]

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