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Anonymous wrote:Duke is EXTREMELY difficult to get into. If he does make the cut, count yourself fortunate. Their applicant acceptance rate was 10% as of 4 years ago.

If your DS is accepted at Duke, do whatever it take to send him there. A fantastic school with a far-reaching reputation and stellar academic programs than that dive bar in Charlottesville could ever muster. UVA as a "safety school" perhaps, but it's certainly not in league with Duke.

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I went to Duke ('07) and I wouldn't put my child into debt to go there, honestly. UVA is a great opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget South Carolina where the kids can get up to a 6.0 in a class for honors-AP-double honors-some nonsense.

PP is correct. This has shifted the irrefutable selectivity ranking as follows:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) UVA 4.3
4) UM College Park 4.28
5) South Carolina 4.21
6) Harvard 4.18
7) Stanford 3.95
8) Princeton 3.90

Don't forget Florida!:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) Florida 4.42
4) UVA 4.3
5) UM College Park 4.28
6) South Carolina 4.21
7) Harvard 4.18
8) Stanford 3.95
9) Princeton 3.90

The only thing standardized in admissions is standardized test scores, and many schools are trying to scuttle that or go test optional or get around it through loopholes (foreigners not counted, spring admits not counted).

Still, the more accurate stats are posted every fall by the State Higher Education Council of Virginia, has UVA median at a 4.35 and a 4.49 for 75th percentile. If you are unhooked and applying from NoVA, you better be aiming for the top 75th percentile which is 4.49 GPA; 34 ACT or 1500 SAT or higher. These are the scores of actual entering students, not acceptances (which are higher stats because a number of students peel off and go Ivy or SLACs). I know a lot of UVA legacy students who had that 75th percentile package last year and did not get in even as legacies.

GPA: 4.49 (75th percentile); 4.35 median; 4.25 bottom 25th
ACT: 34 (75th percentile); 33 median; 30 bottom 25th
SAT 1500 (75th percentile): 1430 median; 1340 bottom

Man, I actually looked up SHECV. UVa is not even the most selective school in Virignia. Its SAT / ACT scores are slightly lower than those of W&L. Do you think Duke is worse than W&L?

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

. You are looking at UVA-Wise, not UVA. The UVA entries are temporarily down.

I was looking at 2018-2019 numbers. UVA-C is behind W&L.

Still wrong. The UVA numbers aren't posted right now for 2019-20. (Or you are looking at VCU, not UVA) But most college counselors print them out when the Commonwealth issues them. For fall of 2019 (class of 2024), UVA had higher stats than W&M.in ACTs and GPA and across the board for all categories in median. The SATs scores for UVA's entering class at the 75th/50th/25th percentiles were 1500/1430/1340. ACT scores were 34/33/30; GPA 4.49/4.35/4.21

At W&M the SATs were 1510/1410/1320; ACT scores were 34/32/30 and GPA was 4.46/4.26/4.07.

The big difference are the scores for the median of the classes with UVA having an average entering GPA of 4.35 and W&M at 4.26. Similarly, there is a gap in median SAT scores with UVA at 1430 and W&MM at 1420. UVA's ACT median is a 33 compared to W&M's 32.

Your [b]reading comprehension sucks. The PP wrote "W&L", not "W&M". Or perhaps you do this intentionally. . .

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What of the most annoying things about DCUM is the fact that when people lose on the stats, they come back with typo corrections or "reading comprehension" complaints - as if all of us can type well on our phones. Another reason I think I'll be leaving DCUM shortly. Just not worth it. You try to provide stats to help and get insulted.

If people are frequently replying to you about reading comprehension, perhaps you need to consider that.

They aren't. It's just the snarky attitude of this board. An OP will post something and invariably the first entry is a snark attacking the OP. Or if someone is beaten down by facts, responders go after them with the "clearly you don't know how to spell" or "clearly you don't know how to read" or "you clearly didn't graduate from XYZ school" or, invariably, the "reading comprehension" line. I've never used it myself but it is used repeatedly to insult people throughout the forum. If you provide statistics, those who don't like the statistics will find something to be insulting about, whether it is a typo (not allowing for fact that someone might be typing on a little phone keyboard OR in a rush to send something off and don't have time to proof). You don't even allow for the possibility that someone is reading a post in snippets on a phone while running around doing other tasks - and are reading a post in fragments and are actually responding to help someone out - no, your type just have pick away, especially if you don't like what the poster has provided, which, in my case is almost always statistics shored up by a link. It's just not worth it anymore to be on this board. Why call anyone out for "reading comprehension" issues. Isn't that cruel ipso facto? Would you say that to someone's fact? No, of course you wouldn't. There's too much misery and nastiness here. I'm leaving

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget South Carolina where the kids can get up to a 6.0 in a class for honors-AP-double honors-some nonsense.

PP is correct. This has shifted the irrefutable selectivity ranking as follows:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) UVA 4.3
4) UM College Park 4.28
5) South Carolina 4.21
6) Harvard 4.18
7) Stanford 3.95
8) Princeton 3.90

Don't forget Florida!:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) Florida 4.42
4) UVA 4.3
5) UM College Park 4.28
6) South Carolina 4.21
7) Harvard 4.18
8) Stanford 3.95
9) Princeton 3.90

The only thing standardized in admissions is standardized test scores, and many schools are trying to scuttle that or go test optional or get around it through loopholes (foreigners not counted, spring admits not counted).

Still, the more accurate stats are posted every fall by the State Higher Education Council of Virginia, has UVA median at a 4.35 and a 4.49 for 75th percentile. If you are unhooked and applying from NoVA, you better be aiming for the top 75th percentile which is 4.49 GPA; 34 ACT or 1500 SAT or higher. These are the scores of actual entering students, not acceptances (which are higher stats because a number of students peel off and go Ivy or SLACs). I know a lot of UVA legacy students who had that 75th percentile package last year and did not get in even as legacies.

GPA: 4.49 (75th percentile); 4.35 median; 4.25 bottom 25th
ACT: 34 (75th percentile); 33 median; 30 bottom 25th
SAT 1500 (75th percentile): 1430 median; 1340 bottom

Man, I actually looked up SHECV. UVa is not even the most selective school in Virignia. Its SAT / ACT scores are slightly lower than those of W&L. Do you think Duke is worse than W&L?

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

. You are looking at UVA-Wise, not UVA. The UVA entries are temporarily down.

I was looking at 2018-2019 numbers. UVA-C is behind W&L.

Still wrong. The UVA numbers aren't posted right now for 2019-20. (Or you are looking at VCU, not UVA) But most college counselors print them out when the Commonwealth issues them. For fall of 2019 (class of 2024), UVA had higher stats than W&M.in ACTs and GPA and across the board for all categories in median. The SATs scores for UVA's entering class at the 75th/50th/25th percentiles were 1500/1430/1340. ACT scores were 34/33/30; GPA 4.49/4.35/4.21

At W&M the SATs were 1510/1410/1320; ACT scores were 34/32/30 and GPA was 4.46/4.26/4.07.

The big difference are the scores for the median of the classes with UVA having an average entering GPA of 4.35 and W&M at 4.26. Similarly, there is a gap in median SAT scores with UVA at 1430 and W&MM at 1420. UVA's ACT median is a 33 compared to W&M's 32.

Your [b]reading comprehension sucks. The PP wrote "W&L", not "W&M". Or perhaps you do this intentionally. . .

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What of the most annoying things about DCUM is the fact that when people lose on the stats, they come back with typo corrections or "reading comprehension" complaints - as if all of us can type well on our phones. Another reason I think I'll be leaving DCUM shortly. Just not worth it. You try to provide stats to help and get insulted.

If people are frequently replying to you about reading comprehension, perhaps you need to consider that.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget South Carolina where the kids can get up to a 6.0 in a class for honors-AP-double honors-some nonsense.

PP is correct. This has shifted the irrefutable selectivity ranking as follows:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) UVA 4.3
4) UM College Park 4.28
5) South Carolina 4.21
6) Harvard 4.18
7) Stanford 3.95
8) Princeton 3.90

Don't forget Florida!:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) Florida 4.42
4) UVA 4.3
5) UM College Park 4.28
6) South Carolina 4.21
7) Harvard 4.18
8) Stanford 3.95
9) Princeton 3.90

The only thing standardized in admissions is standardized test scores, and many schools are trying to scuttle that or go test optional or get around it through loopholes (foreigners not counted, spring admits not counted).

Still, the more accurate stats are posted every fall by the State Higher Education Council of Virginia, has UVA median at a 4.35 and a 4.49 for 75th percentile. If you are unhooked and applying from NoVA, you better be aiming for the top 75th percentile which is 4.49 GPA; 34 ACT or 1500 SAT or higher. These are the scores of actual entering students, not acceptances (which are higher stats because a number of students peel off and go Ivy or SLACs). I know a lot of UVA legacy students who had that 75th percentile package last year and did not get in even as legacies.

GPA: 4.49 (75th percentile); 4.35 median; 4.25 bottom 25th
ACT: 34 (75th percentile); 33 median; 30 bottom 25th
SAT 1500 (75th percentile): 1430 median; 1340 bottom

Man, I actually looked up SHECV. UVa is not even the most selective school in Virignia. Its SAT / ACT scores are slightly lower than those of W&L. Do you think Duke is worse than W&L?

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

. You are looking at UVA-Wise, not UVA. The UVA entries are temporarily down.

I was looking at 2018-2019 numbers. UVA-C is behind W&L.

Still wrong. The UVA numbers aren't posted right now for 2019-20. (Or you are looking at VCU, not UVA) But most college counselors print them out when the Commonwealth issues them. For fall of 2019 (class of 2024), UVA had higher stats than W&M.in ACTs and GPA and across the board for all categories in median. The SATs scores for UVA's entering class at the 75th/50th/25th percentiles were 1500/1430/1340. ACT scores were 34/33/30; GPA 4.49/4.35/4.21

At W&M the SATs were 1510/1410/1320; ACT scores were 34/32/30 and GPA was 4.46/4.26/4.07.

The big difference are the scores for the median of the classes with UVA having an average entering GPA of 4.35 and W&M at 4.26. Similarly, there is a gap in median SAT scores with UVA at 1430 and W&MM at 1420. UVA's ACT median is a 33 compared to W&M's 32.

Your reading comprehension sucks. The PP wrote "W&L", not "W&M". Or perhaps you do this intentionally. . .

Why would I do anything intentionally? Your post makes no sense. PPs had been talking about W&M, so clearly that's what the PP was talking about I guess. That PP can't even read a chart to save their life. They couldn't get UVA, right - they went with UVA-Wise, which tells you a lot about the poster to begin with. Then they claimed UVA-C - there is no such thing. Now W&L. Whatever. UVA's stats are ahead of W&M. Which the PP had said wasn't the case. It is as of 2019-2020.

PP always wrote W&L. Anyone can see that. Why double down?

Seriously, but I suppose the dumbs are always going to dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget South Carolina where the kids can get up to a 6.0 in a class for honors-AP-double honors-some nonsense.

PP is correct. This has shifted the irrefutable selectivity ranking as follows:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) UVA 4.3
4) UM College Park 4.28
5) South Carolina 4.21
6) Harvard 4.18
7) Stanford 3.95
8) Princeton 3.90

Don't forget Florida!:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) Florida 4.42
4) UVA 4.3
5) UM College Park 4.28
6) South Carolina 4.21
7) Harvard 4.18
8) Stanford 3.95
9) Princeton 3.90

The only thing standardized in admissions is standardized test scores, and many schools are trying to scuttle that or go test optional or get around it through loopholes (foreigners not counted, spring admits not counted).

Still, the more accurate stats are posted every fall by the State Higher Education Council of Virginia, has UVA median at a 4.35 and a 4.49 for 75th percentile. If you are unhooked and applying from NoVA, you better be aiming for the top 75th percentile which is 4.49 GPA; 34 ACT or 1500 SAT or higher. These are the scores of actual entering students, not acceptances (which are higher stats because a number of students peel off and go Ivy or SLACs). I know a lot of UVA legacy students who had that 75th percentile package last year and did not get in even as legacies.

GPA: 4.49 (75th percentile); 4.35 median; 4.25 bottom 25th
ACT: 34 (75th percentile); 33 median; 30 bottom 25th
SAT 1500 (75th percentile): 1430 median; 1340 bottom

Man, I actually looked up SHECV. UVa is not even the most selective school in Virignia. Its SAT / ACT scores are slightly lower than those of W&L. Do you think Duke is worse than W&L?

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

. You are looking at UVA-Wise, not UVA. The UVA entries are temporarily down.

I was looking at 2018-2019 numbers. UVA-C is behind W&L.

Still wrong. The UVA numbers aren't posted right now for 2019-20. (Or you are looking at VCU, not UVA) But most college counselors print them out when the Commonwealth issues them. For fall of 2019 (class of 2024), UVA had higher stats than W&M.in ACTs and GPA and across the board for all categories in median. The SATs scores for UVA's entering class at the 75th/50th/25th percentiles were 1500/1430/1340. ACT scores were 34/33/30; GPA 4.49/4.35/4.21

At W&M the SATs were 1510/1410/1320; ACT scores were 34/32/30 and GPA was 4.46/4.26/4.07.

The big difference are the scores for the median of the classes with UVA having an average entering GPA of 4.35 and W&M at 4.26. Similarly, there is a gap in median SAT scores with UVA at 1430 and W&MM at 1420. UVA's ACT median is a 33 compared to W&M's 32.

Your reading comprehension sucks. The PP wrote "W&L", not "W&M". Or perhaps you do this intentionally. . .

Why would I do anything intentionally? Your post makes no sense. PPs had been talking about W&M, so clearly that's what the PP was talking about I guess. That PP can't even read a chart to save their life. They couldn't get UVA, right - they went with UVA-Wise, which tells you a lot about the poster to begin with. Then they claimed UVA-C - there is no such thing. Now W&L. Whatever. UVA's stats are ahead of W&M. Which the PP had said wasn't the case. It is as of 2019-2020.

PP always wrote W&L. Anyone can see that. Why double down?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget South Carolina where the kids can get up to a 6.0 in a class for honors-AP-double honors-some nonsense.

PP is correct. This has shifted the irrefutable selectivity ranking as follows:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) UVA 4.3
4) UM College Park 4.28
5) South Carolina 4.21
6) Harvard 4.18
7) Stanford 3.95
8) Princeton 3.90

Don't forget Florida!:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) Florida 4.42
4) UVA 4.3
5) UM College Park 4.28
6) South Carolina 4.21
7) Harvard 4.18
8) Stanford 3.95
9) Princeton 3.90

The only thing standardized in admissions is standardized test scores, and many schools are trying to scuttle that or go test optional or get around it through loopholes (foreigners not counted, spring admits not counted).

Still, the more accurate stats are posted every fall by the State Higher Education Council of Virginia, has UVA median at a 4.35 and a 4.49 for 75th percentile. If you are unhooked and applying from NoVA, you better be aiming for the top 75th percentile which is 4.49 GPA; 34 ACT or 1500 SAT or higher. These are the scores of actual entering students, not acceptances (which are higher stats because a number of students peel off and go Ivy or SLACs). I know a lot of UVA legacy students who had that 75th percentile package last year and did not get in even as legacies.

GPA: 4.49 (75th percentile); 4.35 median; 4.25 bottom 25th
ACT: 34 (75th percentile); 33 median; 30 bottom 25th
SAT 1500 (75th percentile): 1430 median; 1340 bottom

Man, I actually looked up SHECV. UVa is not even the most selective school in Virignia. Its SAT / ACT scores are slightly lower than those of W&L. Do you think Duke is worse than W&L?

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

. You are looking at UVA-Wise, not UVA. The UVA entries are temporarily down.

I was looking at 2018-2019 numbers. UVA-C is behind W&L.

Still wrong. The UVA numbers aren't posted right now for 2019-20. (Or you are looking at VCU, not UVA) But most college counselors print them out when the Commonwealth issues them. For fall of 2019 (class of 2024), UVA had higher stats than W&M.in ACTs and GPA and across the board for all categories in median. The SATs scores for UVA's entering class at the 75th/50th/25th percentiles were 1500/1430/1340. ACT scores were 34/33/30; GPA 4.49/4.35/4.21

At W&M the SATs were 1510/1410/1320; ACT scores were 34/32/30 and GPA was 4.46/4.26/4.07.

The big difference are the scores for the median of the classes with UVA having an average entering GPA of 4.35 and W&M at 4.26. Similarly, there is a gap in median SAT scores with UVA at 1430 and W&MM at 1420. UVA's ACT median is a 33 compared to W&M's 32.

Your [b]reading comprehension sucks. The PP wrote "W&L", not "W&M". Or perhaps you do this intentionally. . .

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What of the most annoying things about DCUM is the fact that when people lose on the stats, they come back with typo corrections or "reading comprehension" complaints - as if all of us can type well on our phones. Another reason I think I'll be leaving DCUM shortly. Just not worth it. You try to provide stats to help and get insulted.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget South Carolina where the kids can get up to a 6.0 in a class for honors-AP-double honors-some nonsense.

PP is correct. This has shifted the irrefutable selectivity ranking as follows:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) UVA 4.3
4) UM College Park 4.28
5) South Carolina 4.21
6) Harvard 4.18
7) Stanford 3.95
8) Princeton 3.90

Don't forget Florida!:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) Florida 4.42
4) UVA 4.3
5) UM College Park 4.28
6) South Carolina 4.21
7) Harvard 4.18
8) Stanford 3.95
9) Princeton 3.90

The only thing standardized in admissions is standardized test scores, and many schools are trying to scuttle that or go test optional or get around it through loopholes (foreigners not counted, spring admits not counted).

Still, the more accurate stats are posted every fall by the State Higher Education Council of Virginia, has UVA median at a 4.35 and a 4.49 for 75th percentile. If you are unhooked and applying from NoVA, you better be aiming for the top 75th percentile which is 4.49 GPA; 34 ACT or 1500 SAT or higher. These are the scores of actual entering students, not acceptances (which are higher stats because a number of students peel off and go Ivy or SLACs). I know a lot of UVA legacy students who had that 75th percentile package last year and did not get in even as legacies.

GPA: 4.49 (75th percentile); 4.35 median; 4.25 bottom 25th
ACT: 34 (75th percentile); 33 median; 30 bottom 25th
SAT 1500 (75th percentile): 1430 median; 1340 bottom

Man, I actually looked up SHECV. UVa is not even the most selective school in Virignia. Its SAT / ACT scores are slightly lower than those of W&L. Do you think Duke is worse than W&L?

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

. You are looking at UVA-Wise, not UVA. The UVA entries are temporarily down.

I was looking at 2018-2019 numbers. UVA-C is behind W&L.

Still wrong. The UVA numbers aren't posted right now for 2019-20. (Or you are looking at VCU, not UVA) But most college counselors print them out when the Commonwealth issues them. For fall of 2019 (class of 2024), UVA had higher stats than W&M.in ACTs and GPA and across the board for all categories in median. The SATs scores for UVA's entering class at the 75th/50th/25th percentiles were 1500/1430/1340. ACT scores were 34/33/30; GPA 4.49/4.35/4.21

At W&M the SATs were 1510/1410/1320; ACT scores were 34/32/30 and GPA was 4.46/4.26/4.07.

The big difference are the scores for the median of the classes with UVA having an average entering GPA of 4.35 and W&M at 4.26. Similarly, there is a gap in median SAT scores with UVA at 1430 and W&MM at 1420. UVA's ACT median is a 33 compared to W&M's 32.

Your reading comprehension sucks. The PP wrote "W&L", not "W&M". Or perhaps you do this intentionally. . .

Why would I do anything intentionally? Your post makes no sense. PPs had been talking about W&M, so clearly that's what the PP was talking about I guess. That PP can't even read a chart to save their life. They couldn't get UVA, right - they went with UVA-Wise, which tells you a lot about the poster to begin with. Then they claimed UVA-C - there is no such thing. Now W&L. Whatever. UVA's stats are ahead of W&M. Which the PP had said wasn't the case. It is as of 2019-2020.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is EXTREMELY difficult to get into. If he does make the cut, count yourself fortunate. Their applicant acceptance rate was 10% as of 4 years ago.

If your DS is accepted at Duke, do whatever it take to send him there. A fantastic school with a far-reaching reputation and stellar academic programs than that dive bar in Charlottesville could ever muster. UVA as a "safety school" perhaps, but it's certainly not in league with Duke.

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is EXTREMELY difficult to get into. If he does make the cut, count yourself fortunate. Their applicant acceptance rate was 10% as of 4 years ago.

If your DS is accepted at Duke, do whatever it take to send him there. A fantastic school with a far-reaching reputation and stellar academic programs than that dive bar in Charlottesville could ever muster. UVA as a "safety school" perhaps, but it's certainly not in league with Duke.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is EXTREMELY difficult to get into. If he does make the cut, count yourself fortunate. Their applicant acceptance rate was 10% as of 4 years ago.

If your DS is accepted at Duke, do whatever it take to send him there. A fantastic school with a far-reaching reputation and stellar academic programs than that dive bar in Charlottesville could ever muster. UVA as a "safety school" perhaps, but it's certainly not in league with Duke.

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Anonymous wrote:im a duke grad and id go to ova unless cost is same with aid. then kid should decide which he likes better.

You write like a UVA grad.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget South Carolina where the kids can get up to a 6.0 in a class for honors-AP-double honors-some nonsense.

PP is correct. This has shifted the irrefutable selectivity ranking as follows:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) UVA 4.3
4) UM College Park 4.28
5) South Carolina 4.21
6) Harvard 4.18
7) Stanford 3.95
8) Princeton 3.90

Don't forget Florida!:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) Florida 4.42
4) UVA 4.3
5) UM College Park 4.28
6) South Carolina 4.21
7) Harvard 4.18
8) Stanford 3.95
9) Princeton 3.90

The only thing standardized in admissions is standardized test scores, and many schools are trying to scuttle that or go test optional or get around it through loopholes (foreigners not counted, spring admits not counted).

Still, the more accurate stats are posted every fall by the State Higher Education Council of Virginia, has UVA median at a 4.35 and a 4.49 for 75th percentile. If you are unhooked and applying from NoVA, you better be aiming for the top 75th percentile which is 4.49 GPA; 34 ACT or 1500 SAT or higher. These are the scores of actual entering students, not acceptances (which are higher stats because a number of students peel off and go Ivy or SLACs). I know a lot of UVA legacy students who had that 75th percentile package last year and did not get in even as legacies.

GPA: 4.49 (75th percentile); 4.35 median; 4.25 bottom 25th
ACT: 34 (75th percentile); 33 median; 30 bottom 25th
SAT 1500 (75th percentile): 1430 median; 1340 bottom

Man, I actually looked up SHECV. UVa is not even the most selective school in Virignia. Its SAT / ACT scores are slightly lower than those of W&L. Do you think Duke is worse than W&L?

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

. You are looking at UVA-Wise, not UVA. The UVA entries are temporarily down.

I was looking at 2018-2019 numbers. UVA-C is behind W&L.

Still wrong. The UVA numbers aren't posted right now for 2019-20. (Or you are looking at VCU, not UVA) But most college counselors print them out when the Commonwealth issues them. For fall of 2019 (class of 2024), UVA had higher stats than W&M.in ACTs and GPA and across the board for all categories in median. The SATs scores for UVA's entering class at the 75th/50th/25th percentiles were 1500/1430/1340. ACT scores were 34/33/30; GPA 4.49/4.35/4.21

At W&M the SATs were 1510/1410/1320; ACT scores were 34/32/30 and GPA was 4.46/4.26/4.07.

The big difference are the scores for the median of the classes with UVA having an average entering GPA of 4.35 and W&M at 4.26. Similarly, there is a gap in median SAT scores with UVA at 1430 and W&MM at 1420. UVA's ACT median is a 33 compared to W&M's 32.

Your reading comprehension sucks. The PP wrote "W&L", not "W&M". Or perhaps you do this intentionally. . .

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget South Carolina where the kids can get up to a 6.0 in a class for honors-AP-double honors-some nonsense.

PP is correct. This has shifted the irrefutable selectivity ranking as follows:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) UVA 4.3
4) UM College Park 4.28
5) South Carolina 4.21
6) Harvard 4.18
7) Stanford 3.95
8) Princeton 3.90

Don't forget Florida!:

1) UNC Chapel Hill 4.7
2) Clemson 4.43
3) Florida 4.42
4) UVA 4.3
5) UM College Park 4.28
6) South Carolina 4.21
7) Harvard 4.18
8) Stanford 3.95
9) Princeton 3.90

The only thing standardized in admissions is standardized test scores, and many schools are trying to scuttle that or go test optional or get around it through loopholes (foreigners not counted, spring admits not counted).

Still, the more accurate stats are posted every fall by the State Higher Education Council of Virginia, has UVA median at a 4.35 and a 4.49 for 75th percentile. If you are unhooked and applying from NoVA, you better be aiming for the top 75th percentile which is 4.49 GPA; 34 ACT or 1500 SAT or higher. These are the scores of actual entering students, not acceptances (which are higher stats because a number of students peel off and go Ivy or SLACs). I know a lot of UVA legacy students who had that 75th percentile package last year and did not get in even as legacies.

GPA: 4.49 (75th percentile); 4.35 median; 4.25 bottom 25th
ACT: 34 (75th percentile); 33 median; 30 bottom 25th
SAT 1500 (75th percentile): 1430 median; 1340 bottom

Man, I actually looked up SHECV. UVa is not even the most selective school in Virignia. Its SAT / ACT scores are slightly lower than those of W&L. Do you think Duke is worse than W&L?

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

. You are looking at UVA-Wise, not UVA. The UVA entries are temporarily down.

I was looking at 2018-2019 numbers. UVA-C is behind W&L.

Still wrong. The UVA numbers aren't posted right now for 2019-20. (Or you are looking at VCU, not UVA) But most college counselors print them out when the Commonwealth issues them. For fall of 2019 (class of 2024), UVA had higher stats than W&M.in ACTs and GPA and across the board for all categories in median. The SATs scores for UVA's entering class at the 75th/50th/25th percentiles were 1500/1430/1340. ACT scores were 34/33/30; GPA 4.49/4.35/4.21

At W&M the SATs were 1510/1410/1320; ACT scores were 34/32/30 and GPA was 4.46/4.26/4.07.

The big difference are the scores for the median of the classes with UVA having an average entering GPA of 4.35 and W&M at 4.26. Similarly, there is a gap in median SAT scores with UVA at 1430 and W&MM at 1420. UVA's ACT median is a 33 compared to W&M's 32.

Duke is EXTREMELY difficult to get into. If he does make the cut, count yourself fortunate. Their applicant acceptance rate was 10% as of 4 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:im a duke grad and id go to ova unless cost is same with aid. then kid should decide which he likes better.

You write like a UVA grad.