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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is just so much bias... it is systemic and even good teachers are swayed by it. They are NOT trained to understand the difference between a high performing child and a high potential child. Some do see it, but in my experience, most do not.[/quote]

I have to agree. Also, because 3rd graders only have one teacher, it's hard to eliminate bias because there aren't multiple recs.

Prefer consistent objective measures like MAP.[/quote]

We have faith in teachers to teach our kids and evaluate them but not evaluate them for a magnet program? Makes no sense.  MAP can be an indicator, but some kids are just good test takers and some are not -- it's not a universal indicator, just as teacher recs aren't universal. It's all subjective. So, we shouldn't leave anything out. Use MAP and teacher rec. But, not MAP and magnet test w/o any non-testing performance data. Test taking is one skill. And, it can be taught. [/quote]

This is a good primer on why teacher recommendations are particularly problematic in racially diverse districts like MCPS: https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/ny/2016/10/20/when-is-a-student-gifted-or-disabled-a-new-study-shows-racial-bias-plays-a-role-in-deciding/

"Racial bias among educators may play a larger role than previously understood in deciding whether students are referred for special education or gifted programs, according to new research from NYU."

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"Teachers were more likely to see academic shortfalls as disabilities among white students, even when students of color demonstrated the same deficits. They tended to see these struggles as “problems to fix,” the study explains, if students were white. And students of color were more likely be referred for special-education testing when they had emotional or behavioral issues compared with identical white peers — and were less likely to be identified as gifted."[/quote]

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