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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Agree! We still have evidence on this thread of the very behavior we are talking about.....the propensity of progressive liberals to explain away very obvious antisemtitism - and who actually get angry at the Jews who are rightly pointing out that any bigotry toward  Jewish people is completely unacceptable. [/quote]

I don't agree that there is obvious anti-Semitism on White's part. Even you are unable to point to obvious anti-Semitism. He didn't know the Rothschilds are Jewish and was spreading his nutty conspiracy theory out of ignorance, not anti-Semitism. [b]He left the tour group because of the reporter and the subsequent article by that reporter demonstrated that White's instincts were correct.[/b] This is not "explaining away very obvious anti-Semitism", but simply pointing out that there wasn't obvious anti-Semitism. I can't explain away something that wasn't there in the first place.

Don't you understand the harm that you are doing by describing someone as being an obvious anti-Semite when he is no such thing? Don't you see how that sort of unfair treatment could generate a backlash? How would you react to being publicly described as a racist? Would that make you more or less understanding of people of color?

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You are choosing to credit his assertions as to why he left the museum and that the reporter had an agenda.  Maybe that is true, but that is far from clear or the only reasonable explanation as to what occurred.[/quote]

His presence at the museum was complete uncessary . Overkill much ?[/quote]
It was all a show to demonstrate that he felt bad for advancing an antisemitic conspiracy theory. Thing is, he made things worse but not staying through the tour.

An analogy: a white DC politican makes an extremely offensive and bigoted remark about POC. To "make amends" and show he sympathizes with their history of persecution, he goes to the AA Museum. But then, he can't even be bothered competing the tour and goes for a smoke on the sidewalk. What message would that send, especially coming so close on the heels of his earlier racist remark? People in DC would be calling for his head. [/quote]

Stop using the black community in your false equivalencies   ,  your history is absolutely nothing compared to theirs , but if you continue to do that you would find yourselves even more isolated . [/quote]

Uh, the history of Jews in the Middle East and Europe has many parallels to the African/African American experience: slavery, discrimination, intolerance, extermination and the list goes on. Both groups have been treated horribly by "the majority" in historical terms and for the past 150 years in the United States, it has been mostly the jews who have stood with African-Americans in the fight for civil and social justice. That is why American Jews get so upset when we see support from the AA community for someone like Louis Farrakahn, or when someone like Jesse Jackson calls NYC Hymietown.

It is disrespectful to a group of people who collectively have been standing side by side with the likes of MLK and many other American Civil Rights heroes.[/quote]
+ 1 I also find it disheartening for someone to casually remark that [Jewish] history is absolutely nothing compared [to black history]. Not only does it show callous disregard for the largest genocide of the 20th century, but the overall persecution of the previous 3000 years. How does such a statement build understanding? Rather, it reveals hostility toward Jews who, as the PP above noted, stood hand-in-hand with blacks during the civil rights era. Why is not that statement called out for sewing division? Why does the blame always go to the Jews?

Furthermore, it should be understandable - expected, actually - that Jews will not want to continue to support black communities that demonstrate such hostilities toward them. Reminds me of my grandfather, a poor NYC boy who went to CCNY, and "made good," as the saying goes. I was sitting at the table when the phone rang, and it was the college, seeking contributions from alumni, made up of LOTS of Jewish boys. Grandpa screamed something into the phone about Professor Jeffries (big antisemite who said Jews were injecting black babies with AIDS) and told them they wouldn't see a cent as long as the antisemtie is still there.

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OMG! This entire comment is pure gold for any true anti Semite .You say Jews should no longer support black communities . For one , where does that money come from? It assumes that Jews have money ( I mean you've made it clear in no uncertain terms) Ah ah ! And two it infers that whatever support they might've received was conditional upon you and yours feeling like they're your foot soldiers or 'allies' . Third , do yourself and start keeping your money

Furthermore , there's a really good superiority complex perceptible in your comments ( Hitler should be proud) whereby you assume that somehow African Americans or minorities for that matter are helpless who can't sustain themselves . There are roughly 10 times more AAs than Jews in this country , to say nothing of other minorities , all it takes is for these groups to make it a point to not shop at businesses with Jewish ownership however minimal that ownership stake might be ( easy to find out ) and we shall see how much of your dollar will be needed for shitty and imaginary support . Careful what you wish for .[/quote]

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